From: slider@anashram.com   
      
   On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 02:03:13 +0100, He Who Sees All   
    wrote:   
      
   > On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 03:00:46 +0100, slider    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 11:56:36 +0100, He Who Sees All   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 23:40:20 +0100, slider    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 22:10:52 +0100, dude    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> f u cn rd ths, itn tyg h myxbl cd.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ### - wot? there's no miracles round here dude...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> just hard work ;)   
   >>>   
   >>> Lol.  Hard work?  Yeah, right...   
   >>   
   >> ### - haha believe me, there's nada easy about you...   
   >>   
   >> you're 'always' hard work ;)   
   >   
   > Cynicism & scepticism are hard work, I must agree.  Hypothetically,   
   > minus humanity, the view isn't bleak at al...however, according to a   
   > reductionist perspective of reality at the quantum level, without   
   > humanity (consciousness) there *would* be no view.   
      
   ### - lol see what i mean by not easy? haha :D   
      
   animals have views though, not intellectual rational views coz animals   
   don't think, they don't cogitate or have to figure anything out, they   
   don't concepualise, yet they obviously perceive and live lives of struggle   
   quite successfully, and in-harmony with the rest of nature to boot!   
      
   iow: animals live in a world of rich experience all their own, one humans   
   can only ever experience if they learn something like zen and thus learn   
   to 'stop' thinking, upon which we then begin to perceive something else   
   that seems revolutionary to us thinking/cogitating beings who perforce   
   have to figure out everything thing we do or we just can't do it ;)   
      
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