XPost: alt.support.depression, alt.support.schizophrenia, alt.bu   
   dha.short.fat.guy   
   XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism   
   From: slider@anashram.com   
      
   On Mon, 12 Aug 2024 15:24:16 +0100, % wrote:   
      
   > one wrote:   
   >> slider wrote:   
   >>> someone wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>> Whether all people who have what is called schizophrenia   
   >>>> or some people would be able to have more lucid dreams   
   >>>> and contribute to a culture sounds like a fine topic.   
   >>>   
   >>> ### - i think so too... but that's only one example because the overall   
   >>> premise included 'other' kinds of mental illness too as thus   
   >>> 'potentially'   
   >>> being closer to an altered state on a daily basis compared to the   
   >>> average   
   >>> man in the street, that being my whole point from the start but which   
   >>> you   
   >>> were refusing to even hear without continually changing the subject,   
   >>> there   
   >>> being nada about what am suggesting that warrants such evasion, and   
   >>> which   
   >>> cued my objection to you screwing around for nada...   
   >> Sorry about your agenda being derailed. It was unintentional.   
   >> There was no, refusal, to hear what you wrote, nor evasion.   
   >> You are projecting, imo, on to words seen on screnes.   
   >> As for a conversation,   
   >> I might like to say, at this point, to continue,   
   >> that to say the average man in the street   
   >> is what constitutes an unaltered state   
   >> suggests many connotations   
   >> and permutations to me.   
   >> My guess, at this point, is that you are uninterested   
   >> in discussing to a fine point what constitutes an altered state   
   >> as well as who is the average man in the street.   
   >> If so, skip the next two paragraphs.   
   >> The so-called average man in the street, imo, experiences   
   >> many altered states from when awakening to returning to   
   >> a state of unconsciousness. Throughout the week he goes   
   >> from state to state naturally as the days unfold.   
   >> What then, is an unaltered state, could be a question.   
   >> Is there a state beyond which there are no more states.   
   >> Does a state of cosmic or, as the OP may state, Christ   
   >> consciousness exist. And can people who are or have   
   >> been diagnosed with a variety of mental illnesses be   
   >> more near to such an ultimate state than so-called   
   >> others, like the average man in the street.   
   >> Is there a point to WILD beyond imagination?   
   >>   
   >>> that what the OP originally said/suggested was indeed a generalisation,   
   >>> but that doesn't detract from its content being interesting and/or   
   >>> containing a facet of truth, and didn't deserve being slammed out of   
   >>> hand   
   >>> (unnecessarily rudely i might add)   
   >> Agree.   
   >>   
   >>> i mean, what gives you (or anyone come to that) the right to punch   
   >>> people   
   >>> in the face for something they're saying or commenting on like that??   
   >> Usenet newsgroups tend to grant such a right. Trolling,   
   >> flames and w'hat knots basically are par for the course.   
   >>   
   >>> especially if what they're saying/suggesting has some merit to it!?   
   >>> (merit, you've just agreed, would be nice)   
   >> Some people don't understand how social media   
   >> may not be the best place to publish thoughts   
   >> in terms of going without what goes with   
   >> posting material in groups, especially   
   >> unmoderated Usenet groups.   
   >>   
   >>> no, it was done out of something 'other' than rational debate, it was   
   >>> done   
   >>> out of cruelty and spite tinged with personal hatred and in my book   
   >>> that   
   >>> kind of bs is bang out of order, especially when the OP is from my   
   >>> group   
   >>> and is being attacked for what is ultimately a fairly intelligent   
   >>> comment/observation (we deal in 'all' subjects here at alt.dreams   
   >>> castaneda, everything in this world & beyond is part of life so no   
   >>> subject   
   >>> is taboo, indeed one has to cover everything that is/exists or it's   
   >>> clearly not complete)   
   >> Cross-posting may invite more comments.   
   >> - thanks! Cheers!   
   >>   
   > you type funny   
      
   ### - perhaps he's outgrown you? ;)   
      
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