XPost: alt.support.depression, alt.support.schizophrenia, alt.bu   
   dha.short.fat.guy   
   XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism   
   From: slider@anashram.com   
      
   On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 12:25:46 +0100, one  wrote:   
      
   > Sounds to me like stereotyping straw people.   
   > A story told similar to the well-frog and sea-turtle.   
   > One is reminded, at times, how happy the frog was   
   > and how the turtle was unable to see what was   
   > in the well about which the frog was happy.   
      
   ### - (smile) if the turtle in that story had never appeared then the   
   question about the frog being happy or not wouldn't have ever arisen, that   
   life (that perception of life) was all that frog ever knew and was   
   familiar with and so he lived as best he could within the confines of the   
   well which was his home, he didn't even think to question it, after all it   
   was all he'd ever known...   
      
   the turtle turning-up on the scene alters the picture, however, after   
   roaming around in the larger world outside he meets a happy frog stuck   
   down a well, a lovely average frog who isn't even complaining about his   
   situation and has made a life for himself down there because there isn't   
   any other choice for him...   
      
   that turtle, however, has perhaps seen and met other average frogs living   
   in the wider world above, where it's obvious to anyone there that this is   
   where all frogs belong, their natural environment, and like everything   
   else they are part of the wider world, it's their natural home... so when   
   he happens upon a frog whose been living down a well for several   
   generations he considers that to be a limited existence for a frog who   
   'should' be jumping around in the light and not stuck down some hole in   
   the ground...   
      
   and being a very kind turtle he takes pity on the poor frog, knowing from   
   past experience that there's a much bigger/wider world that all frogs are   
   part of...   
      
   but hey, maybe that frog is a suspicious and arrogant little frog,   
   conceited in his beliefs, or just scared that the turtle maybe wants to   
   eat him, or steal his home or whatever, the turtle, however, sees only a   
   frog stuck in a hole and being forced to live a limited perception of   
   life...   
      
   and, after talking to that frog and getting no response (except maybe rude   
   ones) he sadly turns away thinking that maybe that little frog just wasn't   
   ready to hear his message of freedom this time, the best he was able to do   
   for him being to at least let that poor frog know that 'maybe' there's a   
   much better/bigger world outside of his current home where he actually &   
   naturally belongs, but doesn't realise it...   
      
   yet ;)   
      
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