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   >> the last of the hold-outs, such as russia, is no coincidence...   
   >   
   > Russia is a "hold-out"?  That's an unusual way to paint naked   
   > aggression and the killing of men, women and children throughout   
   > soveriegn Ukraine.  Even Staliln realised that Ukraine needed to be a   
   > separate unit to Russia, as did all of the successors, until that flat   
   > faced cunt Putin came along...   
      
   ### - yes, russia's a hold-out in that sense, as is iran and china...   
   i.e., they don't want to be part of western ideology's rule of law or   
   capitalism, they claim to have their own, fairly successful systems...   
   only that's not good enough for the west, the west doesn't want to share   
   anything, it wants the whole thing as the only way of ultimately feeling   
   secure, and thus everything we see today, in fact every war on the planet   
   to date, is, and has been, the direct result of the west's drive to empire   
   the world...   
      
   iow: we've (the west i mean) caused ALL the wars and then always BLAMED   
   those wars on 'the enemy' - the enemy being anyone who wont join the club!   
   70+ years of demonising russia now has everyone believing they're   
   responsible for all the trouble when actually the reverse is true and   
   russia just wants to be left alone, ditto china...   
      
   e.g., we give ukraine more powerful weapons and when russia responds we   
   accuse 'them' of escalating the situation, see how it works?   
      
      
      
      
   > You might be feeling Putin very soon in your neighborhood, air raid   
   > sirens followed by very bright second suns, you'll have just enough   
   > time to admire the flash as the universe around you explodes and you   
   > are atomised and rising towards the stratosphere...   
      
   ### - there's no need to get so morbid heh, the uk/europe would be just   
   the first ones to get it, everywhere else would then follow including oz   
   because oz is one of the west's important outposts and strategic nuclear   
   listening posts, oz sold-out to the west a long time back/has always been   
   it's little slave, it was created by the monster/british empire ffs! :)   
      
      
      
      
   >>> Germany is as usual a pitiful wreck with lots   
   >>> of baggage still from WW2.  Poland has balls, so do the three Baltics,   
   >>> and Italy - well, it's Italy, one forward gear, 5 reverse.   
   >>>   
   >>> Australia down here is full of resources, one of the wealthiest   
   >>> countries per capita on the face of the earth.  Ripe for the picking?   
   >>> There are a lot of islands between us and China, and we are (or were)   
   >>> good friends with the US.  But we too need to develop our own means,   
   >>> and soon.   
   >>   
   >> ### - you've gotta be kidding no? australia will never be independent,   
   >> ever, and only retains the seeming independence they 'appear' to have   
   >> for   
   >> as long as they pull their weight, that SMH article being the equivalent   
   >> of oz rubbing itself, cat-like, against the leg of america in the most   
   >> blatantly obsequious manner: we love youuu america... please feed us and   
   >> protect us from the big bad wolf lol... are they really THAT naive??   
   >> :)))   
   >   
   > Jealous much, Brian?  lol   
      
   ### - not at all... have told you before, many times, that am a dog of no   
   nation thang, i just so happened to have been born here so you wont find   
   we waving any flags or supporting any 'teams', am an outsider for real, a   
   cuckoo born in some strangers nest, i don't belong, have never belonged,   
   am only passing-through in that sense, a stranger looking-on at what   
   appears to be a god-awful unholy mess called planet earth lol... a pile of   
   shite so big and sooo high ya can't see the feckin' end of it in any   
   direction hah, and WHAT a pile of shite it is huh? lol you couldn't make   
   this shit up! we've turned this whole world into one massive shithole and   
   are actually proud of it - look what we've dun! we dun did that! - what   
   time's gladiators on honey, are we missin' it?? :D   
      
      
      
      
   >> if oz genuinely wanted to be independent they could, for example, tell   
   >> the   
   >> US to remove all their nuclear crap from their soil and sign-up to the   
   >> growing BRICs accord, oz would soon then see the pile of shite that   
   >> would   
   >> soon land on them from the west to make them conform...   
   >   
   > I said we need to be independent, not we are independent.  Then again,   
   > I guess the nuclear deterrent held by the UK hasn't really deterred   
   > Putin from threatening to kill you, your relatives and everyone you   
   > have ever known along with everything else in London and elsewhere in   
   > your little island.   
      
   ### - oz DOES indeed need to be independent, just like everyone does, but   
   never will be for the reasons already stated... oz isn't 'allowed' to be   
   independent anymore than your abbo's are allowed to be independent,   
   anymore than the native americans (or blacks) are allowed to be   
   independent either! in wallyworld one is either with 'em or against 'em on   
   this monkey-minded planet - that's how they think ;)   
      
      
      
   > Unlike you, who has never been to Australia, I've visited London so my   
   > views of your town are more valid than yours of mine.  I've been to   
   > the British Museum, it is fantastic, especially the stolen Egyptian   
   > artifacts guarding the doorway :)   
   >   
   > And, I've eaten Nandos there before it became a massive thing.   
      
   ### - afaic oz is no different to anywhere else, it's got a different   
   accent and slightly different cultural mannerisms, and defo better   
   weather, you can dress it up any way ya want but it's the same old   
   shit-show as anywhere else in the western world, your smh being no   
   different in message terms than any other western media outlet worldwide:   
   all putting out completely one-sided information, they even went so far as   
   to ban RT here in the uk lol + so much then for freedom of the press huh:   
   another lie!   
      
      
      
      
   >> no, that ain't EVER gonna happen thang, never in a million years will oz   
   >> be free!   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> As for Trump, it's right, the system is entrenched in the US for   
   >>> centuries, Trump will make a splash and a few waves and then it will   
   >>> be business as usual.  The swamp will end up draining him...   
   >>   
   >> ### - he IS the swamp lol: a physical manifestation OF it in-action no   
   >> less!!!   
   >>   
   >> smile, saw a cartoon on FB the other day... of a ravenous looking wolf   
   >> preaching/electioneering to a packed crowd of sheep, saying: "if you   
   >> vote   
   >> for me i'll immediately become a vegetarian!"   
   >>   
   >> lol, and they's ALL gonna believe it aren't they haha!   
   >>   
   >> whoo-hoo he's gonna make us all great again!!!!!   
   >>   
   >> riiiiiiiight :)))))   
   >>   
   >> (remember him waving a bible in one hand while the police   
   >> brutalised/gassed a crowd of peaceful american protesters that time   
   >> outside some church? that's a clear pic of who he 'really' is and what   
   >> we   
   >> can expect, caligula indeed: which all ended very badly for caligula coz   
   >> he was a total nutjob: a Tyrant! and they've already tried to shoot the   
   >> fucker twice...)   
   >   
   > He's a 79 year old old man, who will be 83 when and if he finishes   
   > this term.   
   >   
   > Reminds me of the fucking cannibal who ran Rhodesia/Zimbabwe until he   
   > packed it in close to a hundred years old.   
      
   ### - well imho, if 'anyone' can 'really' fuck this planet up a good bit   
   more, and do it quickly too, it's him! in fact methinks we'll be lucky if   
   there's a world left after he's gone...   
      
   am thinking 50/50 it goes either way?   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)