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   alt.dreams.castaneda      The Art of Dreaming by Carlos Castaneda      26,979 messages   

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   Re: gold hits $2,722 ! (4/5)   
   22 Nov 24 23:00:43   
   
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   collectively and very enthusiastically hate 'the enemy' lol, up on huge   
   public tv screens there's the face of the leader of 'the enemy', saying   
   they don't want war, that they want peace and an end to war, that   
   negotiations should commence etc, etc, while the gathered watching crowd   
   below scream, shouts and ridicule him... and what am saying/suggesting is   
   that the SMH is just doing exactly the same thing in that sense, are   
   merely doing their part to keep the public hatred going at the currently   
   identified 'enemy', are having their very own hate-hour and thus   
   reinforcing the current party-line via a series of evolving lies about   
   that enemy...   
      
   e.g., the west allows ukraine to start using their longer range weapons, a   
   clear escalation similar to when they gave them tanks and f15's, heavier   
   weapons/items that effectively ups the ante, and when russia responds   
   in-kind in order to adjust to the now increased tension of the situation,   
   the west accuses 'them' of raising the stakes, of escalating the situation   
   like they suddenly did that completely out of the blue for no reason??   
      
   no thang, there's an element of cause & effect here, one side escalates   
   and the other side is forced to respond in kind in order to maintain the   
   status quo!   
      
      
      
      
   there being only one intelligent way to deal with such blatant propaganda   
   being rammed down our throats, and that's to simply reverse it haha... the   
   complete reverse actually being closer to the truth than the way they're   
   always presenting/portraying it... the US being the actual carnivore in   
   that scenario, everyone else just fighting to survive...   
      
   But what does all your blabber really mean?  You don't like the   
   British welfare state?  You're unhappy with the price of apples?  Are   
   you saying you would prefer to LIVE in Russia, Iran, NK or China?   
      
   Is that what you are saying?  A simple yes or no will suffice (but you   
   won't do that, you won't commit, you're far too brilliant for that...)   
      
   ### - lol that's NOT what am saying! you're putting words in my mouth haha   
   :)))   
      
   what am saying (still in context) is that the SMH is merely part & parcel   
   of the state propaganda machine, an extension of it, and now here it is   
   bashing its readers over the head with a pile a deliberately misleading,   
   almost romantic, bs... the same bs all the other western media outlets are   
   currently putting out as well about 'the enemy', their own little   
   smh-contribution being to draw a comparison between carnivores/herbivores,   
   with the 'enemy' perforce being the carnivore, when in truth - if/when we   
   examine things from the pov of history - it's all actually the reverse of   
   what we're being instructed to think and to believe... and that what am   
   'giving' you is a means to 'see-through' all that bs via the application   
   of a very simple principle: reversal!   
      
   for example: if, in the time of galileo, people had simply 'reversed' what   
   they were being told to believe about the sun orbiting the earth, they   
   would have actually been far closer to the Truth of the matter than what   
   they did believe! and i'm simply suggesting that this same principle can   
   still be applied today, possibly for nearly everything people have been   
   told to believe! that the 'reverse' of what people believe is more   
   'likely' to be correct in many instances! especially when it comes to   
   propaganda!   
      
   (see, it's not blather, i was just adding a bit more to it, all within the   
   same smh context)   
      
      
      
      
   try it and see heh, everything makes far more sense if/when ya turn it all   
   around to face the other way, just like the sun orbiting the earth was   
   literally 180-degrees out of whack and yet that's what everyone was forced   
   to believe upon pain of public strangulation/death   
      
   No idea what you're talking about.   
      
   ### - but you do now, right? i.e., am suggesting that 'one' way to   
   see-through all the bs and propaganda is by a process of applied   
   reversal... which doesn't work in 'every' instance for 'everything', but   
   is still a bloody good gauge/tool to use on occasion... 'try it and see'   
   being an invitation to try applying such reversals yourself (am not   
   saying/suggesting to absolutely/blindly believe anything, only to contrast   
   & compare and then you've got at least 2 opposing pov's to work with, one   
   pov on it's own being like only ever seeing/examining things from one   
   direction only, a pov that may or may not be correct, as such one has to   
   be deliberately objective or risk forgetting what you're doing...   
      
      
      
      
   Macron and your guy (Starmer) are waking up to reality and becoming,   
   at the least, omnivores.   
      
   ### - oh c'mon get it right... the uk was the great carnivore of old, no?   
      
   I'm sticking with the present, the world you and I live in.  Nothing   
   else really matters.  The past is history.  You may as well talk about   
   Genghis Khan and his mountains of skulls, or Hitler and his ovens, or   
   Turkey and the Armenians.  The Romans and practically everyone...   
      
   Let's talk about the world WE inhabit.   
      
   ### - i am! the uk USED to be the master of the world no? the british   
   empire and all that? a genuine fucking monster on the world stage for   
   which it's still apologising today lol, thus the smh's misleading bs about   
   the poor old uk being a helpless herbivore being picked-on by a carnivore   
   'enemy' etc, is totally misleading crap! the uk is the 'previous' ruler of   
   the known world! the past carnivore wolf who's now a pet of the current,   
   even more massive/brutal ruling power: america!   
      
   this being an instance wherein reversal actually reveals the truth!   
      
      
      
      
   the fact that we're now only the fav lap-dog of america (one of 'em heh)   
   only revealing the sheer power & might of the US currently! tony blair   
   that time playing the role of grand vizier to the ruling masters of the   
   world, all of europe in the direct control 'of' those masters as evidenced   
   by a so-called military & economic alliance, and all currently at-war with   
   the last of the hold-outs, such as russia, is no coincidence...   
      
   Russia is a "hold-out"?  That's an unusual way to paint naked   
   aggression and the killing of men, women and children throughout   
   soveriegn Ukraine.  Even Staliln realised that Ukraine needed to be a   
   separate unit to Russia, as did all of the successors, until that flat   
   faced cunt Putin came along...   
      
   ### - yes, russia's a hold-out in that sense, as is iran and china...   
   i.e., they don't want to be part of western ideology's rule of law or   
   capitalism, they claim to have their own, fairly successful systems...   
   only that's not good enough for the west, the west doesn't want to share   
   anything, it wants the whole thing as the only way of ultimately feeling   
   secure, and thus everything we see today, in fact every war on the planet   
   to date, is, and has been, the direct result of the west's drive to empire   
   the world...   
      
   iow: we've (the west i mean) caused ALL the wars and then always BLAMED   
   those wars on 'the enemy' - the enemy being anyone who wont join the club!   
   70+ years of demonising russia now has everyone believing they're   
   responsible for all the trouble when actually the reverse is true and   
   russia just wants to be left alone, ditto china...   
      
   e.g., we give ukraine more powerful weapons and when russia responds we   
   accuse 'them' of escalating the situation, see how it works?   
      
      
      
      
   You might be feeling Putin very soon in your neighborhood, air raid   
   sirens followed by very bright second suns, you'll have just enough   
   time to admire the flash as the universe around you explodes and you   
      
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   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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