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      [continued from previous message]              collectively and very enthusiastically hate 'the enemy' lol, up on huge       public tv screens there's the face of the leader of 'the enemy', saying       they don't want war, that they want peace and an end to war, that       negotiations should commence etc, etc, while the gathered watching crowd       below scream, shouts and ridicule him... and what am saying/suggesting is       that the SMH is just doing exactly the same thing in that sense, are       merely doing their part to keep the public hatred going at the currently       identified 'enemy', are having their very own hate-hour and thus       reinforcing the current party-line via a series of evolving lies about       that enemy...              e.g., the west allows ukraine to start using their longer range weapons, a       clear escalation similar to when they gave them tanks and f15's, heavier       weapons/items that effectively ups the ante, and when russia responds       in-kind in order to adjust to the now increased tension of the situation,       the west accuses 'them' of raising the stakes, of escalating the situation       like they suddenly did that completely out of the blue for no reason??              no thang, there's an element of cause & effect here, one side escalates       and the other side is forced to respond in kind in order to maintain the       status quo!                                   there being only one intelligent way to deal with such blatant propaganda       being rammed down our throats, and that's to simply reverse it haha... the       complete reverse actually being closer to the truth than the way they're       always presenting/portraying it... the US being the actual carnivore in       that scenario, everyone else just fighting to survive...              But what does all your blabber really mean? You don't like the       British welfare state? You're unhappy with the price of apples? Are       you saying you would prefer to LIVE in Russia, Iran, NK or China?              Is that what you are saying? A simple yes or no will suffice (but you       won't do that, you won't commit, you're far too brilliant for that...)              ### - lol that's NOT what am saying! you're putting words in my mouth haha       :)))              what am saying (still in context) is that the SMH is merely part & parcel       of the state propaganda machine, an extension of it, and now here it is       bashing its readers over the head with a pile a deliberately misleading,       almost romantic, bs... the same bs all the other western media outlets are       currently putting out as well about 'the enemy', their own little       smh-contribution being to draw a comparison between carnivores/herbivores,       with the 'enemy' perforce being the carnivore, when in truth - if/when we       examine things from the pov of history - it's all actually the reverse of       what we're being instructed to think and to believe... and that what am       'giving' you is a means to 'see-through' all that bs via the application       of a very simple principle: reversal!              for example: if, in the time of galileo, people had simply 'reversed' what       they were being told to believe about the sun orbiting the earth, they       would have actually been far closer to the Truth of the matter than what       they did believe! and i'm simply suggesting that this same principle can       still be applied today, possibly for nearly everything people have been       told to believe! that the 'reverse' of what people believe is more       'likely' to be correct in many instances! especially when it comes to       propaganda!              (see, it's not blather, i was just adding a bit more to it, all within the       same smh context)                                   try it and see heh, everything makes far more sense if/when ya turn it all       around to face the other way, just like the sun orbiting the earth was       literally 180-degrees out of whack and yet that's what everyone was forced       to believe upon pain of public strangulation/death              No idea what you're talking about.              ### - but you do now, right? i.e., am suggesting that 'one' way to       see-through all the bs and propaganda is by a process of applied       reversal... which doesn't work in 'every' instance for 'everything', but       is still a bloody good gauge/tool to use on occasion... 'try it and see'       being an invitation to try applying such reversals yourself (am not       saying/suggesting to absolutely/blindly believe anything, only to contrast       & compare and then you've got at least 2 opposing pov's to work with, one       pov on it's own being like only ever seeing/examining things from one       direction only, a pov that may or may not be correct, as such one has to       be deliberately objective or risk forgetting what you're doing...                                   Macron and your guy (Starmer) are waking up to reality and becoming,       at the least, omnivores.              ### - oh c'mon get it right... the uk was the great carnivore of old, no?              I'm sticking with the present, the world you and I live in. Nothing       else really matters. The past is history. You may as well talk about       Genghis Khan and his mountains of skulls, or Hitler and his ovens, or       Turkey and the Armenians. The Romans and practically everyone...              Let's talk about the world WE inhabit.              ### - i am! the uk USED to be the master of the world no? the british       empire and all that? a genuine fucking monster on the world stage for       which it's still apologising today lol, thus the smh's misleading bs about       the poor old uk being a helpless herbivore being picked-on by a carnivore       'enemy' etc, is totally misleading crap! the uk is the 'previous' ruler of       the known world! the past carnivore wolf who's now a pet of the current,       even more massive/brutal ruling power: america!              this being an instance wherein reversal actually reveals the truth!                                   the fact that we're now only the fav lap-dog of america (one of 'em heh)       only revealing the sheer power & might of the US currently! tony blair       that time playing the role of grand vizier to the ruling masters of the       world, all of europe in the direct control 'of' those masters as evidenced       by a so-called military & economic alliance, and all currently at-war with       the last of the hold-outs, such as russia, is no coincidence...              Russia is a "hold-out"? That's an unusual way to paint naked       aggression and the killing of men, women and children throughout       soveriegn Ukraine. Even Staliln realised that Ukraine needed to be a       separate unit to Russia, as did all of the successors, until that flat       faced cunt Putin came along...              ### - yes, russia's a hold-out in that sense, as is iran and china...       i.e., they don't want to be part of western ideology's rule of law or       capitalism, they claim to have their own, fairly successful systems...       only that's not good enough for the west, the west doesn't want to share       anything, it wants the whole thing as the only way of ultimately feeling       secure, and thus everything we see today, in fact every war on the planet       to date, is, and has been, the direct result of the west's drive to empire       the world...              iow: we've (the west i mean) caused ALL the wars and then always BLAMED       those wars on 'the enemy' - the enemy being anyone who wont join the club!       70+ years of demonising russia now has everyone believing they're       responsible for all the trouble when actually the reverse is true and       russia just wants to be left alone, ditto china...              e.g., we give ukraine more powerful weapons and when russia responds we       accuse 'them' of escalating the situation, see how it works?                                   You might be feeling Putin very soon in your neighborhood, air raid       sirens followed by very bright second suns, you'll have just enough       time to admire the flash as the universe around you explodes and you              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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