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   organisms suddenly put in an appearance, which experts on the subject   
   agree is 'how' and 'why' intelligence ultimately evolved...   
      
   and yes, we're still talking about 'now' and the current state of the   
   world, but we can't just forget how the world has arrived in it's current   
   situation, said current situation not just appearing over night out of the   
   blue, it evolved over many years to get to where it is right now, it has a   
   known 'history' that has clearly led-up to the current situation   
      
      
      
      
   >>> The carnivores are Russia, China, NK and Iran.  Iran will soon be   
   >>> scratched and none of the other three will come to its aid.  However,   
   >>> the other 3 are nuclear powers and they are on the prowl...   
   >>   
   >> ### - the SMH is clearly just doing their romantic-best & part to   
   >> support/promote the current "Hate Hour" (from Orwell's 1984): to   
   >> identify   
   >> the 'enemy' and to demonise them in the public mind...   
   >   
   > Late breaking news:  Putin threatens London with MIRV'd ICBM attack. I   
   > think, Brian, that Putin and his evil ilk are doing well enough   
   > demonising themselves, without any help from the SMH or anyone else :)   
      
   ### - have you not read orwell's 1984, or seen the films made of it?   
      
   in one of the scenes there's something called "The Hate Hour", a   
   nation-wide televised hour in which everyone stops what they're doing to   
   collectively and very enthusiastically hate 'the enemy' lol, up on huge   
   public tv screens there's the face of the leader of 'the enemy', saying   
   they don't want war, that they want peace and an end to war, that   
   negotiations should commence etc, etc, while the gathered watching crowd   
   below scream, shouts and ridicule him... and what am saying/suggesting is   
   that the SMH is just doing exactly the same thing in that sense, are   
   merely doing their part to keep the public hatred going at the currently   
   identified 'enemy', are having their very own hate-hour and thus   
   reinforcing the current party-line via a series of evolving lies about   
   that enemy...   
      
   e.g., the west allows ukraine to start using their longer range weapons, a   
   clear escalation similar to when they gave them tanks and f15's, heavier   
   weapons/items that effectively ups the ante, and when russia responds   
   in-kind in order to adjust to the now increased tension of the situation,   
   the west accuses 'them' of raising the stakes, of escalating the situation   
   like they suddenly did that completely out of the blue for no reason??   
      
   no thang, there's an element of cause & effect here, one side escalates   
   and the other side is forced to respond in kind in order to maintain the   
   status quo!   
      
      
      
      
   >> there being only one intelligent way to deal with such blatant   
   >> propaganda   
   >> being rammed down our throats, and that's to simply reverse it haha...   
   >> the   
   >> complete reverse actually being closer to the truth than the way they're   
   >> always presenting/portraying it... the US being the actual carnivore in   
   >> that scenario, everyone else just fighting to survive...   
   >   
   > But what does all your blabber really mean?  You don't like the   
   > British welfare state?  You're unhappy with the price of apples?  Are   
   > you saying you would prefer to LIVE in Russia, Iran, NK or China?   
   >   
   > Is that what you are saying?  A simple yes or no will suffice (but you   
   > won't do that, you won't commit, you're far too brilliant for that...)   
      
   ### - lol that's NOT what am saying! you're putting words in my mouth haha   
   :)))   
      
   what am saying (still in context) is that the SMH is merely part & parcel   
   of the state propaganda machine, an extension of it, and now here it is   
   bashing its readers over the head with a pile a deliberately misleading,   
   almost romantic, bs... the same bs all the other western media outlets are   
   currently putting out as well about 'the enemy', their own little   
   smh-contribution being to draw a comparison between carnivores/herbivores,   
   with the 'enemy' perforce being the carnivore, when in truth - if/when we   
   examine things from the pov of history - it's all actually the reverse of   
   what we're being instructed to think and to believe... and that what am   
   'giving' you is a means to 'see-through' all that bs via the application   
   of a very simple principle: reversal!   
      
   for example: if, in the time of galileo, people had simply 'reversed' what   
   they were being told to believe about the sun orbiting the earth, they   
   would have actually been far closer to the Truth of the matter than what   
   they did believe! and i'm simply suggesting that this same principle can   
   still be applied today, possibly for nearly everything people have been   
   told to believe! that the 'reverse' of what people believe is more   
   'likely' to be correct in many instances! especially when it comes to   
   propaganda!   
      
   (see, it's not blather, i was just adding a bit more to it, all within the   
   same smh context)   
      
      
      
      
   >> try it and see heh, everything makes far more sense if/when ya turn it   
   >> all   
   >> around to face the other way, just like the sun orbiting the earth was   
   >> literally 180-degrees out of whack and yet that's what everyone was   
   >> forced   
   >> to believe upon pain of public strangulation/death ;)   
   >>   
   > No idea what you're talking about.   
      
   ### - but you do now, right? i.e., am suggesting that 'one' way to   
   see-through all the bs and propaganda is by a process of applied   
   reversal... which doesn't work in 'every' instance for 'everything', but   
   is still a bloody good gauge/tool to use on occasion... 'try it and see'   
   being an invitation to try applying such reversals yourself (am not   
   saying/suggesting to absolutely/blindly believe anything, only to contrast   
   & compare and then you've got at least 2 opposing pov's to work with, one   
   pov on it's own being like only ever seeing/examining things from one   
   direction only, a pov that may or may not be correct, as such one has to   
   be deliberately objective or risk forgetting what you're doing...   
      
      
      
      
   >>> Macron and your guy (Starmer) are waking up to reality and becoming,   
   >>> at the least, omnivores.   
   >>   
   >> ### - oh c'mon get it right... the uk was the great carnivore of old,   
   >> no?   
   >   
   > I'm sticking with the present, the world you and I live in.  Nothing   
   > else really matters.  The past is history.  You may as well talk about   
   > Genghis Khan and his mountains of skulls, or Hitler and his ovens, or   
   > Turkey and the Armenians.  The Romans and practically everyone...   
   >   
   > Let's talk about the world WE inhabit.   
      
   ### - i am! the uk USED to be the master of the world no? the british   
   empire and all that? a genuine fucking monster on the world stage for   
   which it's still apologising today lol, thus the smh's misleading bs about   
   the poor old uk being a helpless herbivore being picked-on by a carnivore   
   'enemy' etc, is totally misleading crap! the uk is the 'previous' ruler of   
   the known world! the past carnivore wolf who's now a pet of the current,   
   even more massive/brutal ruling power: america!   
      
   this being an instance wherein reversal actually reveals the truth!   
      
      
      
      
   >> the fact that we're now only the fav lap-dog of america (one of 'em heh)   
   >> only revealing the sheer power & might of the US currently! tony blair   
   >> that time playing the role of grand vizier to the ruling masters of the   
   >> world, all of europe in the direct control 'of' those masters as   
   >> evidenced   
   >> by a so-called military & economic alliance, and all currently at-war   
   >> with   
   >> the last of the hold-outs, such as russia, is no coincidence...   
   >   
   > Russia is a "hold-out"?  That's an unusual way to paint naked   
      
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