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   one to slider   
   Re: Meher Baba and MADman was: Re: Groun   
   06 Dec 24 07:12:06   
   
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   XPost: alt.religion.shamanism, alt.philosophy.taoism   
   From: being@apolka.sign   
      
   slider wrote:   
   >Venus as a boy wrote:   
   >> Am 05.12.2024 um 11:54 schrieb Venus as a boy:   
   >>   
   >>> I was always fascinated  ...   
      
   >> The madman, if in the hands of enlightened people, can ...   
      
   >> Meher Baba turned many mad people into enlightened people.   
   >>   
   >> It is a strange world. ...   
      
   >> Osho, From Personality to Individuality, Ch 7, Q 1   
   >   
   >### - that's actually very interesting information, and is a subject i   
   >tried to debate previously with someone here called 'One'   
      
   Hello. One here, without the big letter oh.   
   Me being me of all people, naturally.   
      
   Does the One exist.   
   Beyond all Duality.   
      
   Is a noun, Reality, in charge   
   of which beings get to be as two be.   
      
   How mad are the angry individuals who see   
   what isn't seen by those who make the scene seen.   
      
   Once upon a time there was a blind man who   
   picked up his hammer and saw. He, being him   
   of all people began to saw the branch he was   
   sitting on, given: the Tree.   
      
   The Great Tree branches.   
      
   Usually, one has little to no interest in a debate.   
   And yet, two converse, naturally with interest.   
      
   Sometimes there are many. Ontologically   
   with non-duality one ceases as being   
   a form of even Nonbeing.   
      
   At times a compound increases.   
   Chemical additives vary.   
      
   >who didn't seem   
   >to want to accept the possibility that so-called 'Mad' people might   
   >automatically be closer to an enlightened state than average people are   
   >because average people have farther to travel...   
      
   One has no recollection of such a seam   
   which appears to have weaved its way.   
      
   >can't say i like osho all that much as am adverse to 'cults' of any   
   >description - personality cults or otherwise - nevertheless i do like the   
   >way he puts it re 'mad' people being already halfway out and/or have   
   >gotten out by a back door; that 'out' is where you've got to get to (which   
   >also implies that being an 'outsider' IS to be enlightened thang; to have   
   >reached an enlightened state)   
      
   Inside.   
   Outside.   
   Coins vary.   
      
   Some people tend to end up and down   
   where so-called normal people never tread.   
      
   Being able to stay afloat given a consensus reality   
   could be called a blessing, a gift as it were of   
   the Great Present, as a thing unfolds.   
      
   >the only condition/requirement being that it shouldn't be deranged; thus   
   >to basically go back and exit through the correct door...   
   >   
   >something Meher Baba apparently specialised in practicing, cool :)   
      
   Tommy didn't know what day it was.   
      
   Correct and incorrect emerge, naturally.   
      
   Who is.   
   Two say.   
      
   - thanx! Cheers!   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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