From: nick.argall@aplaceof.removedotcom.info.com   
      
   "Jeff J." <10110@atlas.cz> wrote in message   
   news:de28c889.0408141122.f4da46b@posting.google.com...   
   > I used to lucid dream fairly easy for a year for about a year but I   
   > just haven't been practicing and focusing while I am falling asleep. I   
   > have been reading a lot about brain waves and the binaural beats used   
   > to theoritically synchronize the brain's waves to different known   
   > brain waves known for different states (focused, dreaming). I searched   
   > the internet and purposely clicked on ads that sold audio tapes, CDs,   
   > and programs that feature this technology to read anything about this   
   > technology. I have two ideas from the my research on the internet,   
   > either the technology is just another "technology" to fool people into   
   > buying their product with fuzzy scientific backing, or the technology   
   > is not meant for people who have no idea about lucid dreaming and   
   > other altered states (people who have no idea what they are getting   
   > themselves into). But I also remember a while back that my friend said   
   > something about "traditional" drum music including tones and beats   
   > that help the brain "think". My questions are, has anyone used any   
   > audio created with the intention to assist them into a lucid dream or   
   > any other altered state, and, what are your opinions on the   
   > availability of these products?   
      
   I've spoken to people that used binaural devices and made reasonably   
   credible claims about achieving meditative states, and having that verified   
   on an EEG.  But I don't have any direct experience with those.   
      
   > To tell you the truth, I am very interested(obviously) about these   
   > methods of using audio to assist me in lucid dreaming, but I don't   
   > want to get myself into anything beyond my own awareness that isn't   
   > healthy, mentally and spiritually.   
      
   Anything that has a stable rhythmn that is repetitive and is something that   
   you're willing to listen to for an hour is something that can help you get   
   into a meditative state.  I've done traditional drumming, and if it   
   interests you, then do it.  You may not have any dreams, but playing the   
   drums is a special experience, especially if you play in a group of   
   drummers.  There's a thing that happens, a non-verbal communication thing.   
   It's very cool.   
      
   Dancing is also good.  Trance techno (perhaps unsurprisingly) can be used to   
   get yourself into a trance.  I know people that have done wake-induced   
   lucids to Pink Floyd, too.  (I think you need to be in a state of altered   
   consciousness to enjoy Pink Floyd, frankly.)   
      
   Playing the drums or dancing is unlikely to hurt you unless you're in   
   extremely bad shape.  One of these days, I _will_ put up that website that   
   explains basic precautions to take while in an LD - in the meantime, please   
   google the "Dangers of lucid dreaming" thread, in which potential hazards   
   were discussed in detail.  The two most important things anyone can do is:   
   - recognize that things can go wrong   
   - arrange to have someone to help if they do go wrong   
      
   Try to line up your mental health safety-net before you get into trouble.   
   Friends who will tell you if you're spouting nonsense are a valuable   
   commodity :)   
      
      
      
   Nick   
      
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