From: nick.argall@aplaceof.removedotcom.info.com   
      
   "lallous"  wrote in message   
   news:2ps7n1Foh35lU1@uni-berlin.de...   
   > Hello   
   >   
   > In dreams, the logical mind goes off...   
      
   Not quite.  Logic (that amount that we actually have - we don't actually   
   work logically very much at all - we work inductively) remains intact when   
   we dream.  The major change is that a large number of unusual perceptions   
   get past the 'this shouldn't be happening' filter, which is essentially   
   turned off.   
      
   If you accept the theory that dreams exist to train us to deal with brand   
   new situations, it makes perfect sense to turn off the part that says "I   
   haven't seen this before and I don't like it."   
      
   > Now I wonder how would reality checks during the day help attaining lucid   
   > dreams.   
   >   
   > I mean even though we managed to get this attitude into the dream, then in   
   > the dream we say: "Am I dreaming?" "Is this a dream?"   
      
   Yep.  Because day-habits will be acted on in dreams, and dream-habits will   
   be acted on during the day.   
      
   > Since we have no logic by that time, we would:   
   > 1.fail to assert that this is a dream, though the whole dream material   
   might   
   > be illogical and new to you, and it is obvious that this is a dream even   
   w/o   
   > having to ask or do this test   
      
   I don't like the reality checks that involve writing a number on your arm or   
   whatever, because that's very easily manipulated.  Physical inputs are built   
   by the dream function to be credible - so checking for an in-credible input   
   will fail, because the credibility filter is turned off.  Better (IMO)   
   simply to ask yourself several times a day "Am I dreaming?" and not get too   
   emotionally invested in the answer.   
      
   > 2.We might answer yes, this is a dream...but we won't even realize what to   
   > do next...we continue going w/ the flow of the dream.   
      
   If your objective in lucid dreaming is to make some kind of conscious   
   intervention, there are a lot of very good reasons to have a plan.  This is   
   one of them.   
      
      
      
   Nick   
      
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