XPost: alt.out-of-body, alt.consciousness.near-death-exp   
   From: sesquipedalian@isp.com   
      
   ^5's LH :-)   
      
   Grant wrote:   
      
   > LH wrote:   
   >   
   >> "Alan B. Mac Farlane"  wrote in message   
   >> news:BD55CDFE.291A%alanb@sonic.net...   
   >>   
   >>> in article cgpjb8$2nbs$4@news.cybercity.dk, Laura at laura@nospam.me   
   >>> wrote   
   >>> on 8/28/04 2:30 AM:   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>> My God dont kill unborn children ... and my God dont screw around   
   >>>>   
   >>   
   >> either.   
   >>   
   >> No, they choose to experience death before birth.   We're all little   
   >> pieces   
   >> of God and we "screw around", therefore, God screws around.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>> Isn't that contradictory? I mean, if life starts at birth, then how   
   >>>> can   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> an   
   >>   
   >>>> unborn child possibly be killed?   
   >>>> Or maybe I'm misunderstanding your point?   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Hi Laura ... if life starts are birth - then a still born is murder   
   >>> ... a   
   >>> spontanous abortion is murder ... a man made abortion is murder --- all   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> are   
   >>   
   >>> dead bodies after conception since in some minds God made the unborn   
   >>> child   
   >>> alive at conception ...   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Sorry, but by definition, doesn't murder involve at least two people?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> If so - then God kills stillborns.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> No, they choose to experience death in the womb, that's all.  The mother   
   >> chooses to experience a still born birth.  It's all about choices and   
   >> experience.   
   >>   
   >>    
   >>   
   >>> However in Mosaic law from the God of Abraham says - if the pregnant   
   >>> woman   
   >>> dies then wound for wound, life for life, soul for soul must be   
   >>> given up   
   >>> from the person who killed her ... she has the breath of life in   
   >>> her, she   
   >>> has soul, praetikus ... not the unborn child ... it is dead and will   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> remain   
   >>   
   >>> dead until God makes it come alive.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Aw yes, the vengeful God.   
   >>   
   >> The greatest failing of Christianity was the idea that you can't talk to   
   >> God, you must come to the church and we can talk to God for you, for   
   >> money   
   >> of course.  The truth is that we are all God and God is all-that-is.   
   >> Once   
   >> you get that, then you see that it is impossible to sin.  In fact, if   
   >> sin   
   >> existed, then the one true sin would be to create a God in mans   
   >> image.  That   
   >> is the height of arrogance, yet that is what Christianity did...  All   
   >> the   
   >> doings of man are simply the all-that-is experiencing life in human   
   >> form on   
   >> planet Earth.  There are no victims, all is done with full knowledge of   
   >> those involved on some level of their being(not always a level their   
   >> conscious of, obviously).  Does that mean that I encourage murder, rape,   
   >> theft etc.  No, I don't.  I encourage choices.  There are two types of   
   >> choices, those that make you happy and those that make you feel bad.   
   >> However, you have freewill to feel bad if you want too, simply make the   
   >> choice.  Perhaps you need to pick some other phrases from the Bible   
   >> to look   
   >> at.  "Judge not, lest ye be judged", "Yee are Gods".  The good ones are   
   >> short.  The long ones are generally someone trying to control someone   
   >> else.   
   >>   
   >> Good luck on your explorations,   
   >> Lonnie   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   > I am saving these quotes,   
   >   
   > "...the one true sin would be to create a God in mans image." --Lonnie   
   >   
   > "The greatest failing of Christianity was the idea that you can't talk   
   > to God" --Lonnie   
   >   
   > -Grant   
      
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