From: nick.argall@aplaceof.removedotcom.info.com   
      
   "lallous"  wrote in message   
   news:2rctmaF181u1aU1@uni-berlin.de...   
   > Hello   
   >   
   > > And I'm not really into sacred geometry or kabbalah or anything. The   
   > > closest   
   > > I've come to that stuff is listening to Tool.   
   >   
   > How could the sacred geomtry things you mentioned help?   
      
   Many kabbalists practice lucid dreaming.  Lucid dreaming can be considered   
   an 'occult technology' - in much the same way as tarot cards and astrology   
   charts are occult technologies.  Different technologies are used for   
   different purposes.  Kabbalist theory can be used to form a theoretical   
   basis for understanding a wide range of phenomena, although it's not a   
   technology that I choose to use.  (I'm a Taoist, I use Taoist theory, among   
   others.)   
      
   > And what is "listneing to tool" ?   
      
   Tool is the name of a band.   
      
   > > So, is this how it happens for anyone else here? Does it come naturally?   
   > > Or   
   > > have you all taught yourselves to lucid dream?   
   >   
   > I've always believed that we should attain whatever we want naturally,   
   even   
   > lucid dreaming.   
      
   Definitions of the word 'natural' can be problematic, I think :)   
      
   > I am not a natural LDer, however, I believe when one changes his mentality   
   > and the way he perceives in his waking reality, then LD becomes normal.   
      
   Makes sense.   
      
      
      
   Nick   
      
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