From: nick.argall@aplaceof.removedotcom.info.com
"vr" wrote in message
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> "slider" wrote in message
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> > ### - another frigging 'club' to join??? - no thanks, can't you see the
> world
> > is currently 'tearing itself apart' because of people all joining
(taking
> sides in) one
> > kind of useless 'club/cult' or another?
> >
> > forget clubs/cults etc... it's every man for himself when the ship
starts
> sinking...
> >
> > and this planet is just about to hit rock-bottom :)
I've heard that when a group works together, they can free a lifeboat, or
build a raft.
> ---------------------
> vr responded:
>
> I did not intend to preach, I was merely sharing an experience. Because
you
> saw preaching, I obviously used words that might be misunderstood as
> preaching, and for that I am sorry. I made errors in my communication.
> Hopefully these words I write will be able to fix that error.
Your tone remains that of a preacher, or missionary.
> When I practiced what the Castaneda books contain, I did find myself going
> through the stages of evolvement as he explains. I found myself entering
> other spaces, making contact, and even being able to enter friends dreams
> too, and those people were able to confirm it for me.
>
> The things I experienced although not in this world were very real. There
is
> no doubt, but I had reached a point where it became dangerous because I
had
> no Nagual to protect me until I would be knowledgeable enough to protect
> myself. In fact Carlos uses Don Juan's words to warn us of that danger,
how
> Carlos himself would have been killed had it not been for Don Juan saving
> him. I ignored those words time and time again. For 11 years.
There are dangers, serious ones.
> Of the millions who read his books, how many do you think were born strong
> enough to practice without a Nagual?
Best not to try to learn such things from a book.
> When I read Zhuan Falun, it confirmed most everything that Carlos was
> writing about. But it expounded on it and added so much more information
> that I couldn't stop reading the book. The first time I read it, I read
for
> 5 straight hours. I stopped because I needed sleep, but the next day,
first
> chance I got, I finished reading the entire book. It was that
enlightening.
>
> When I decided to change cultivation practices (nagualism is a cultivation
> practice), my life was really in danger. There was a struggle that went on
> for over 5 months. Looking back on it now, I can say that the struggle
> occurred because certain beings weren't willing to let me go without a
> fight.
Best not to try to learn such things from a book.
> I had decided to change cultivation practices, because, what I read in
Zhuan
> Falun furthered my practice to higher levels, it did not eliminate it.
> Finally I was able to find answers. It filled in the blanks that were left
> with my previous practice. I have been studying that practice for over 5
> years now.
>
> Now, you can take this information any way you like. But I speak from my
> experience only. I am standing on my soap box and talking subjectively.
This is called 'preaching'. Why are you motivated to do this?
> Falun Dafa Hao!
> Falun Dafa is Good!
In your particular case, I will not question these statements. But what is
good for one is not always what is best for the other. Wisdom is not made
stronger by selling it to people, wisdom is made stronger by sharing it with
people that want it. When the teacher is ready, the student appears.
Cultivate quality, not quantity.
Nick
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