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   From: ELDon@ADC.com   
      
   "vr"   
   >I practiced dreaming, and was able to go to many places, but without a   
   > nagual to protect me, I came into much harm.   
      
      
   There was never any nagual to protect anyone.   
   You are on your own and have always been on your own and your have to become   
   self-reliant.   
      
   Waiting for a teacher to come along or needing permission from something   
   outside yourself before you can fully be who it is you always already are is   
   the way of weakness and uncertainty. None of need a teacher. We just need   
   someone to encourage us to realize who we always allready are.   
      
   This bullshit about coming to harm in dreaming is a crock of shit. You are   
   simply caught deep in the webs for your own self reflection and neurosis.   
   The only teacher you need is God. Be one with God (whatever this IS for you)   
   and no harm could ever come to you. There will be no strength that shall not   
   be yours.   
      
   God is Life and Life is Love. You are Love   
   Be One with who you are...   
      
   God IS Love   
      
      
      
      
   > After two years, I was extremely sick, but with no real reason, my nerves   
   > were shot, and I couldn't wake up from dreams sometimes. I had to try very   
   > hard to make noises so that my husband could touch me and wake me up. I   
   > felt   
   > very close to death.   
      
      
   This is because you're freaking yourself out.   
   knock it off...LOL!   
      
      
   >   
   > When practicing something that isn't complete, because there is no real   
   > teacher, just someone putting their practices in a book for you, it can   
   > get   
   > bad.   
      
      
   It only gets bead because you *believe* it it "should."   
   If you were centered in your own power (The Father and I are one.) Nothing   
   could sway you from the light.   
   You are scared and uncertain and therefore coming at life from a position of   
   weakness. What a waste.   
      
   All of that is un-truth.   
      
   You don't need a teacher...   
   You need need to remember:   
      
   No Resistance, No Resistance, No Resistance.   
      
   What happens is not as important as how you react to what happens.   
   Use the universal law of acceptance.   
      
      
      
   > I didn't understand most of the things I was encountering and   
   > experiencing. That is, until I read a book that totally changed my life.   
   > Upon reading this book, not only did I understand everything that I had   
   > been   
   > "practicing" before, I was able to overcome the "malevolent organic   
   > beings"   
   > that were attacking me every day.   
      
      
   That's all bullshit.   
   You are imagining all of that and so are the people who taught it to you.   
   Let it go...   
      
      
   >   
   > You need a teacher; that is the most important thing I learned.   
      
      
   You learned wrong.   
   there is no teacher. You need nothing.   
   There is only who you always already are.   
   You are both the teacher and the student.   
      
   Learn from your higher self and no one else.   
   That is your connection to the universe itself.   
      
   what you "learned" from those books was how to be caught up in the webs of   
   someone elses imaginings.   
   You will never connect to the deepest levels of human consciousness by   
   giving your center away to someone else, by listening to what others have to   
   say about enlightenment.   
      
   YOU ARE enlightenment, wisdom, peace, energy, power and knowledge.   
   You only have to come to trust that this is truth.   
      
      
      
   > There are   
   > rare cultivation practices that have no teacher (nagual). But you would   
   > have   
   > to learn them from someone who already mastered the practice, not some   
   > incomplete books.   
      
      
   Take it from me,   
   I have mastered the practice of seeing through people's bullshit.   
   Especially "teachers of Spiritual Practices."   
   It took me decades, but now I am free.   
   truly free.   
      
      
      
   >   
   > I urge you, read for yourself. You have nothing to lose. I speak from   
   > experience   
      
      
   I urge you to forget all of that crap and just live from your heart.   
   And I speak from what is far more real life experience than most.   
      
      
   Do not give your center away.   
   Learn from your higher self and no one else.   
   Be true to who you always already are.   
      
   Live the heart and mind united   
   Make the lion lie down with the lamb   
   (Make the mind lie down with the heart)   
      
      
   best wishes and good luck.   
   it was a hard road for me too...   
   but I made it out just fine and you can too.   
      
      
   Eldon Leighton Donovan   
      
      
      
      
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   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)