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   Ann to All   
   Re: Practicing the art of dreaming (1/3)   
   26 Sep 04 21:59:56   
   
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   From: aon2@hotmail.com   
      
   Hi Vr,   
      
   glad to learn about the Zhuan Falun guy, it's always "enlightening" to   
   hear what others believe in, that is, to try to erect (even for a day:)   
   in our mind the "Truly" monumental matrices of words of other cultures   
   and civilizations. {Nice joke, though, with the mere "5 straight hours"   
   of Creation (reading:), or maybe I didn't know I was such a slow   
   reader, for it were more like 15 in my case.} Alas :), it is very hard   
   to describe the feeling of "Good" ("freedom":) I get then, when I start   
   dis-creating their "Enduring" house of cards, the next in a row.   
      
      
   			     The First Talk   
   			     On The 'Good'   
      
   I liked, most of all, Zhuan's non-profit attitude: unlike other modern   
   gurus (e.g. Carlos) his version of the "Great Buddha Law" comes for   
   free, at the click of a button.  To be frank, and continuing with the   
   good words (don't worry, just a prelude to the "critique of his pure   
   reason":), the "Falun Dafa qigong grandmaster" (about 360 instances of   
   the Word "Master":) is one of the "greatest masters" of words I've ever   
   encountered/read. {Here including also the sci-fi ones, actually Zhuan   
   seems quite knowledgeable of "advanced modern science", especially   
   medicine, and have you noticed how the scientific terminology   
   automatically makes his "Highest Virtuous Truths" carry more weight. It   
   is part of the scholastic style/rhetoric used by eloquent masters of   
   the arts of persuasion.}   
      
      
   			     On Detachment   
      
   The guiding principle in the entire treatise "Turning the Law Wheel" is   
   young Carlos' "detachment from absolutely everything": or Zhuan's   
   "letting go of all attachments". And note, this only in our mind,   
   otherwise we ("qigong cultivators":) are indistinguishable from "the   
   ordinary people", we continue functioning/living "among the common   
   folks". {In contrast to the ancient secret practices of lonely cavemen,   
   solitary monks, hermits or even Castanedian sorcerers.} In that respect   
   I find his thoughts "On Eating Meat" in "The Seventh Talk" a very   
   precise description of the classic skeptic technique of... "suspending   
   judgement" -- that attraction to, and repulsion from, the word until   
   finally 'it' ('meat') becomes neither 'good' nor 'bad', until we reach   
   a detached balance beyond 'good' and 'evil' (somewhere in the middle   
   between 'right' and 'wrong':). Then we can still eat 'meat' whenever we   
   feel like to, but unfortunately, most of the time we won't (his divine   
   sense of humour:), the idea being that letting go of attachments comes   
   naturally, "from withing", without too much shouting, obsession,   
   fanatic exaltation, passionate vows and such.   
      
   Then without much ado he proceeds, with the unmistakable precision of a   
   "grand grandmaster", with the dissolution of all persistent ego-habits   
   (behavioral masks:) and rival matrices to his own (including   
   'evolution', go figure:), everything you've ever come to know falls   
   into pieces, quite similar to what Carlos did to our Western 'matrix'   
   in his earlier books.   
      
      
   			    The Second Talk   
   			      On the 'Bad'   
      
   Well, so far so good, but then, having freed us from various prisons   
   for our mind, he feels the dogmatic urge to plant there his favourite   
   creation. And we suddenly realise what it all was about: his real goal   
   wasn't to set our mind free, but to just 'empty the cup' (or "clean the   
   table" in that famous restaurant, "the island of the tonal", in   
   Castanedian terms:) to make room for the new 'knowledge'. At the end of   
   the day the "compassionate teacher" imposes his favourite 'truth' on   
   his credulous "students" -- his Reason reconstructs from the grounds up   
   another rigorous/complex hierarchical structure (of Spiritual   
   enlightenment, go figure).   
      
   Thus, instantly violating his non-attachment principle, using his Logos   
   'children' as if they are real, as if they have some   
   divine/objective/independent/absolute Meaning.  The list of his   
   hopeless attachments/words is quite long, indeed, let me just mention   
   the absolute 'Law', 'True', 'Good', 'Endure', 'Virtue', 'enlightened',   
   'awakened', 'master' (360 times), 'teacher' (56), 'student' (105),   
   'matter', 'quigong', 'energy', 'Triple-World-Law', 'dimension',   
   'highest', 'lowest', 'levels', 'Tathagata', 'Great Enlightened   
   Beings'...   
      
   In other words, like Aristotle, Carlos, Homo Scientificus and countable   
   others, he was ultimately seduced to take the scholastic road of   
   ascertaining/teaching the "absolute Truth" of things and "the   
   universe", he embraced classic Dogmatism (becoming, on the way,   
   inevitably a slave to the Word:). That's why he first needed (just like   
   Aristotle did with redefining Plato's--his teacher's--concept of   
   "philosophy", "science",...)  badly to reinterpret Shakyamuni's (and   
   later Bodhidharma's) honest words of Logos-Skepticism (old Greek Logos   
   = Word, Language, Meaning, Concept, Thought). I mean, he 'had to' for   
   otherwise Buddha Shakyamuni was telling 'him' to shut his mouth,   
   something 'students' of Aristotle can't stand. They want to have   
   followers, to seek and speak the Truth, Reason desires to find the   
   meaning of the word 'life', strives incessantly to find/give 'purpose   
   for all' and then teach the gullible hearts and minds (the "imperfect   
   souls of children", in Aristotelian terms).   
      
   Whereas, the Zen Buddhist (I like the Third Patriarch's song of the   
   faith mind "Hsin Hsin Ming") was telling Zhuan: Let it go, "master",   
   let go of the Law, the Discourse, the Reason, the Higher Goal, the   
   Higher Levels. There's no "Law", no "Truth"... based on the Word of   
   Logos, it's all plain words, man, splinters driving us mad :).   
      
   Lord Shakyamuni: "No Law is absolute... I haven't taught one bit of Law   
   		 in my life...  Even at this Tathagata level I'm at, I   
   		 still haven't seen the universe's ultimate Truth, or   
   		 what its ultimate Law is."   
      
   I have described that skeptic point of view in several a.d.castaneda   
   treatises, most recently in the "Interesting Article... on Skepticism"   
   from 4th September. Briefly, it stands for Word-skepticism, the   
   position that no absolute 'truth' can be established on   
   philosophical/Logos grounds, the disbelief in any claims of certain   
   'knowledge', however worthy of confidence they might appear.   
                                    ...   
      
   			   The Eighth Talk :)   
   		      On the Basis... of 'energy'   
      
   From the first reading I get the impression that among the most   
   fundamental 'bricks' of his 'matrix' (or beliefs system) are 'energy',   
   'natural' and 'universe', he finds it hard in his reasoning to go any   
   further/lower than those 'axioms'. These little helpers are usually   
   used whenever we have little (understanding:) to say, then we need   
   powerful/universal pillars like that in support of our argument, to fix   
      
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