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From: elysia@hotmail.com
"slider" wrote in message
> > ### - except of course we know that blaine is only 'pretending' :)
>
> Aren't we all?
> Some do it just better then others.
>
> ### - depends on your pov? (those hunger strikers weren't pretending)
( by now it feels I am discussing with the english tabloids)
In that case neither was Blaine.
What you are really saying is that action without a worthy cause cannot get
your approval.
Well Duh... it gets mine......
> in-truth they
> have (unwittingly) entered into an altered state over which they have no
> >control... it is also true to say that they are being controlled...
>
> The last sentence... Yes....
> The controlled uncontrolled.
> And it just might be that someone is wondering
> what is going on? And can I do the same to me myself?
>
> ### - (had to think about this one heh heh:) - but i doubt that they
actually
> notice anything in terms of awareness?
You can never know.
I have been controlled uncontrolled and somehow
exactly that opened the first crack.
I got interested in how it was done.
From there you can go a long way.
> plus they have now the handicap
> of leaving the scene believing that this cheap form/type of imitation
magic
> might be real when it's not... they have been misled into believing a
nonsense
> (not a very kind thing to do)
Thanks for enabling a true Deja vu.
You talk about Blaine like Dave and Vin talk about CC.
We should call this NG alt.dreams.debunking.
or alt.dreams.crushed
>
> > In short his best trick is to make people see a trick when none is
there."
> >
> > ### - > - but what is he really doing if not just getting people lost in
an
> >unfamiliar place, lol and then he 'leaves' them there!! :)
>
> Like any artist does.
> We are no guides.
> We are just unlicened pilots
> who are offering rides into the unknown.
>
> ### - not guides as such, but a good artist can take/send people to a
> place where they now know, see & discover things for themselves, and
> imho blaine is just borrowing from this (stealing?) and not really taking
> them anywhere worthwhile because it's a con to start with (just my
> personal opinion + working ethic:)
No artist will send you anywhere. Like I said all he does is offering you
ride into the direction he is going anywhere.
What you make from it ifd you take a ride is all up to you.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I really see no problem or a reason to go all moral.
>
>
> > i.e. i'd call that... 'taking advantage' :)
>
> May be it is. May be it is called giving advantage.
>
> ### - i understand your point... that any 'true' artist is always trying
to
> create that (liberating) advantage for their viewers... but blaine isn't
> liberating anyone with his art, imho he's just locking them up even
tighter
> by making them believe in nonsense (and the world is already 'full' of
nonsense?)
I cannot see the nonsense in displaying discipline and willpower and
sustaining power of action.
Most people have a lack of it.
>
>
>
>
> > Greet the master of perception. He had you too.
> >
> > ### - nah he didn't... i deliberately didn't watch it heh heh :)
>
> Clever you... and I see you giggling.
>
> ### - smile... blaine the clever street illusionist & showman is alright,
it's good tv...
> blaine the genuine yogi (like Uri Geller) is a joke + a very misleading
> version of what being 'spiritual' is really all about - his 'trick' (and
his flaw) was to
> try and make his yoga seem real (which is precisely where people started
to walk
> away if you think about it)
Without Uri I would have never bended a spoon.
You don't hear me complaining. :)
>
>
>
>
> > I also find it very funny that you don't see David as spiritual.
> > Because I very much do.
> > It is a feeling you know.
> >
> > ### - don't want to burst your bubble or anything, but i think he
doesn't
> > really know what he's doing... i.e. he's just playing along with it all
> because he's an entertainer, and his novel style/approach (street tricks
on the
> >public) made him rich...
>
> Can very well be Slider. How would I really know.
> I am only talking about the true color shining through.
> And if it comes to that I am bubblerella in her invincible bubble.
>
> ### - (smile, the answer for me anyway was to not 'have' a bubble :)
Exactly that is your bubble. The I have no bubble, bubble.
Similar invincible then mine, but still a bubble.
Together we can fill a jacuzzi.
>
> plus let's just place mr blaine right next to someone like nelson mandela
> and the daili lama... and now we shall notice his true colours (pale &
very
> wishy-washy by comparison, cheap gloss from the bargain shop :)
Neslon and the Dalai are like two mountaintops with snow.
Blaine is a vulcano with sporadic eruptions.
You cannot compare one with the other.
Different worlds.
But:
You object to him, but you are not objecting to the many illusions on the
screen you like so much.
Is it ok for a stuntman to risk his life but not for Blaine?
Is it ok for a whole industry to produce illusions and make millions , but
not for Blaine?
Do you see me go all moral on all actors you having fun with or see an
extra bonus on that illusion?
> He is just 30 years old. Have patience. :)
> And a smile for all the clowns trying to entertain you.
>
> ### - as a human being i wish him well... as our 'hope for the future' i
think he
> should be locked up! (haha, just kidding? :)
I think he does pretty well locking himself up.
That much you should have noticed of him :)
RBB
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