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   Message 10,966 of 12,283   
   Nick Argall to Laura   
   Re: freudian defenses in dreams   
   27 Oct 04 16:38:53   
   
   From: nick.argall@aplaceof.removedotcom.info.com   
      
   "Laura"  wrote in message   
   news:clgu7c$2p1$4@news.cybercity.dk...   
   >   
   > "Kaycee"  wrote in message   
   > news:clgpjp$tj5$1@nyytiset.pp.htv.fi...   
   > > I'm slightly confused by a recent dream. Brief version:   
   > >   
   > > ***   
   > > I took with me an underaged guy to a party, which somehow "tainted" him,   
   > > and was supposedly a bad and irresbonsible thing to do. Later in the   
   > > dream the boy's mother was wondering why his son had become "tainted",   
   > > and was indirectly accusing me of doing something to him. Now the   
   > > interesting part: I pretended I did not remember the earlier dream   
   > > sequence, and lied that nothing had happened (at the party). I then   
   > > explained to myself I had been too drunk to control my actions, and too   
   > > drunk to remember what actually happened. All this occurred within the   
   > > context of the dream, and most of it wasn't lucid.   
   > > ***   
   > >   
   > > So. It seems I utilized (Freudian) denial and suppression in the dream   
   > > in a way my (Freudian) ego might have done in the waking world. But it   
   > > surprises me that my dreaming self had the access to these defense   
   > > mechanisms at all! Might this mean there are some connections between   
   > > the ego and lucid awareness in a dream? Like I said, I'm confused here.   
   > >   
   > Since you weren't lucid at the time, perhaps it wasn't really self defense   
   > mechanisms at work, but merely a simulation of how they might be applied   
   in   
   > waking life? A "dry run", so to speak :-)   
   > On the other hand, there might be a connection such as the one you   
   suggest.   
      
   I'd go with the 'practice/simulation' theory, but I don't feel that it   
   excludes the 'applying defense mechanisms' theory.  (And for all the Freud   
   has gotten a bad name for some of his personal acts of suppression and   
   denial, his work at elaborating the mechanisms remains valuable in many   
   ways.)   
      
      
      
   Nick   
      
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