From: nick.argall@aplaceof.removedotcom.info.com
"Nothing" wrote in message
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> every time i
> nap, however, i almost instantly enter a lucid dream. im not sure if
> its WILD... i don't think it is...
My understanding is that WILD is defined by starting the dream before sleep
sets in. So, when I describe what I do as WILD, I do it because I am awake,
I decide to have a dream, and I get into a semi-sleeping state where my
thoughts become self-organizing into the construction of a dream reality. I
used to do it with my eyes open at times, but I've been too busy and tired
for that kind of thing lately.
> but napping to me is so entirely
> different than sleeping. i wake up every 30 minutes to an hour always,
> and i dont feel rested at all, in fact its not resting, its
> exhausting!
That's consistent with my experience, and I know other people who talk that
way about dream experiences.
> but i absolutely love it. i just woke from a series of
> lucid dreams that i can hardly explain. walking around in all sorts of
> settings thinking, asking people what it feels like to be a creation
> of my subconscious. false awakenings one after another. it was nothing
> short of amazing.
That is pretty cool :) And I'm impressed by the question you chose to ask,
I feel inconsiderate for never having asked that one!
> on to another subject, i was wondering if i could discuss with some
> other advanced lucid dreamers about the real journey of it all, and
> how to further explore it.
You know how, when you first learn about something, you're convinced you
understand it all, and then you learn a bit more, and you become aware of
how much it is that you don't know? I recently arrived in the second
category. I'd feel quite comfortable telling some basic things, but I think
you know the basic things already.
I guess what I'm saying is that I'd love for you to get some good help from
someone who has a better opportunity to find out about you and your
circumstances, and who has a bunch of relevant skills. However, good help
is hard to find. Things I suggest are not asserted to be safe or useful -
use your own judgement :)
> i have had some really serious problems for
> years now, that i haven't for the life of me been able to work out.
> first of all, i get frightened easily. i get panic attacks in my
> waking life every so often. i recently quit smoking marijuana, which i
> have been a regular user of for four years, and i think it is helping,
> but i just get these unexplainable panic attacks still every so often.
It might be worth monitoring your salt intake and seeing if there are
connections between high or low salt levels and panic attacks. Red meat can
help in some situations, but if your digestion is as stressed as most
westerners, it might not be worthwhile for you.
> in lucid dreams, they seem to come much more spontaneously and much
> more often. i think it has to do with the fact that when i know im
> entering a lucid dream, i instantly think about what i do not want to
> happen, which is the same dream ive had probably 30 or 40 times now:
>
> it starts with a false awakening, im laying in my bed and wake up look
> around, and i start hearing things. sometimes voices, sometimes just
> loud bizarre noises, theyre echoing in stereo through my head. and i
> can hear breathing. and feel breathing. its just a terrifying sensory
> overload and i feel like something awful is in my room or even worse,
> inside of me. i cant breathe and all i can do is shut my eyes tight
> and wait until i wake up, which sometimes results in another false
> awakening, which is sooo incredibly frustrating. its the most
> terrifying thing, and it haunts me about once a week.
>
> there was a time period where all my lucid dreams were this dream. i
> had forgotten what it was like to have a dream setting any place other
> than my own bed with this terrible presence. lately, especially when
> im napping in a good mood, ive been having nice dreams, but still this
> thing happens at least once a week.
This is the part where it becomes clear that I post actively at
alt.religion.shamanism....
When you're in a 'happy' lucid (ie, not the nasty paralysis one), you might
want to make some enquiries about the paralysis dreams that you're having.
Questions that you might want to ask would include:
- Who is sending you these dreams?
- What is that party's motivation?
- What can be done to reduce the distress that these dreams cause you?
I would encourage you not to seek an immediate
meeting/conversation/confrontation with the source of the dreams, but rather
to conduct 'background checks' that will enable you to prepare a
well-reasoned strategy. Regarding your eventual strategy, I'll point out
that violence tends not to bring an end to unpleasant dreams, but merely
transforms the unpleasantness into a new shape.
> sorry this is long, but hopefully some of you will read it. just one
> more thing id like to ask for advice about:
>
> very often in lucid dreams, i find myself so tired and groggy, and my
> brain feels so off. it feels like im caught in that moment where my
> brain is starting to fall asleep and i cant think straight or really
> run fast or anything, it take sa lot of strength to do anything. its
> really quite frustrating, because i know my real body is happily
> resting, so why should my dream body feel so tired, i should be wide
> awake! i was wondering if anyone else had the same problem, and could
> offer any advice.
Harking over to one of the theoretical discussions where a theory of 'dreams
as practice' was suggested, it seems to me that the source of your dreams
wants to practice being sick. This is not the same as hypochondria,
although it doesn't exclude hypochondria either.
Hope this helps,
Nick
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* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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