From: jimmxx@hotmail.com   
      
   Hi Stacey and Superman. Yes this is very interesting.  :0)  I have just had   
   one obe + lucid dream myself 6 months ago. At that time i took a nap in the   
   afternoon and thought of holding a bit of consciousness untill i passed into   
   sleep. Did not work but i got aware later in the dream.   
      
   Read about a woman who ate chocolate in her lucid dreams. It was better than   
   for "real", she said :0)   
      
   Have you tried to meditate when the body sleeps?   
   Maybe it is even more powerful in this energy state than alfa, theta and so.   
   Those who practise remote influencing do that here. I think the thing is to   
   influence our higher self that is like a projector for reality. But i don´t   
   know if that is correct or if it works. But even physicists are talking   
   about a holographic universe   
      
   You think it is easier to have obe while beeing aware while the body sleeps?   
   I read somewhere that the consciousness leaves the body when it sleeps.   
   Maybe this method is better then than trying to project or to hope on waking   
   up in a dream.   
      
   Best regards   
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
   >   Hello, I'll start by saying I'm a little new to newsgroups. But I really   
   > wanted to comment on the question. I in fact lucid   
   >   
   > dream every night. In fact I never lose consciousness. I've done the same   
   trick   
   > my whole life, at least since I remember.   
   >   
   >  I just close my eyes, and look into the darkness, and count, "1 this is a   
   > dream," "2 this is a dream," "3 this is a dream," and so on. Before long   
   you   
   > start to see shapes, and fuzzy lights. After that your almost there, maybe   
   a   
   > few more seconds. Then before you know in your in a dream. Kind of like   
   you   
   > just booted your self into a video game. And best of all if you learn   
   >   
   > how to put your body to sleep while keeping your mind awake, it's a lot   
   easier   
   > to stay lucid. Now don't get me wrong when I say I never lose   
   consciousness I   
   > just mean when I sleep or when I lay down to sleep I don't just wake up   
   the   
   > next day. There is a whole middle part, that most just miss or forget.   
   >   
   >  One of the biggest problems is people don't remember their dreams. I   
   remember   
   > telling my students over and over to write down their dreams as soon as   
   they   
   > wake up. One of the most important parts of lucid dreaming is keeping a   
   dream   
   > journal. It helps you remember, and the best time to write them down is as   
   soon   
   > as you open your eyes in the morning. Just ask your self "what was I   
   dreaming"?   
   > Then write it down in your journal.   
   >   
   >  I remember when I was 4 or 5 years old thinking to my self how cool it   
   would   
   > be to control your dreams. When I first figured out it was possible, I was   
   > maybe 10. By that point in my life I started studying everything about   
   lucid   
   > dreaming I could find. I started keeping a dream journal when I was 6.   
   That was   
   > about 15 years ago, so I have quite a few journals. I can remember every   
   dream   
   > I have, and now I can enter directly into a dream as soon as I close my   
   eyes.   
   >   
   >  This must seem like science fiction, but I assure you it is all fact. I   
   even   
   > taught a small lucid dreaming class while I was in military school, even a   
   few   
   > uniforms came by. I would also be glad to recommend some book titles.   
   Lucid   
   > dreaming is a very powerful gift, once mastered it can help you in any   
   accept   
   > of life.   
   >   
   > I rehearse job interviews, first dates, and even go for a simple walk   
   around a   
   > mountain that doesn't exist. It's really hard for someone who has never   
   > experienced lucid dreaming to understand how powerful, and real they can   
   > actually be. Even if you've had 1 or 10 you still haven't experienced the   
   true   
   > potential, maybe 8%, (in reality maybe not even that much).The more   
   familiar   
   > you get with your dream body, and dream journal, the better you dream   
   detail   
   > gets. In reality what's happening is that your dream journal is kicking   
   in, and   
   > you memory isn't working in auto mode any more. So you start to remember   
   in   
   > color, and so on. But still remember the difference in the waking world,   
   and   
   > the dream world.   
   >   
   >  That may seem like an easy one, but trust me once you understand just how   
   > powerful I'm talking about you'll agree, it would be very easy to get the   
   two   
   > confused, and forget which is which. But, don't let that scare you from   
   > releasing your true potential. It's a great gift that most never learn to   
   > control, just think we spend a third of our life a sleep, I would   
   preferrer to   
   > keep as much of my life lucid as possible considering how short life is.   
   >   
   > It may be a little work to master it, but anything worth doing takes time,   
   and   
   > effort. In the end it's completely up to you when you learn to dream   
   lucid, and   
   > remember it. You could persuade   
   >   
   > your self now to goto sleep, and dream lucid, and it would work. Only you   
   can   
   > have that kind of expectations. Lucid dreaming like anything else is a   
   skill,   
   > and any good skill takes work. Only this is a skill any one can learn.   
   Your   
   > best weapon is a dream journal, and a positive attitude.   
   >   
   >  I can promise you, that when you do master this skill it will be unlike   
   > anything Xbox, or anything 1000 years later will be able to duplicate.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)