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From: laura@nospam.me
"Jeet" wrote in message
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> "Laura" wrote in message
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> [snip]
> > >
>
> > Yes, and the whole matrix spiel is getting tiresome. It is a hollywood
> > production, filled mostly with sophomoric brawling with a jumbled
sprinkling
> > of pop-cyberpunk philosophy.
>
> So you don't believe that this "real world" is "Matrix".
No.
> You don't
> believe what Siddharth Gautam said- "our mind constructs internal
> reality and lives within it.".
Yes, that is remarkably accurate, but is not the same as to say that the
"real world" is like the matrix.
It would be more accurate, if we must use the matrix analogy, to say that
our perceived selves live in the matrix of the mind, and that we never
actually see the real world as it really is.
> You don't believe that whatever matter
> we see around us was concentrated in very small dense ball at the time
> of Big-Bang.
Principally, yes, though a quantum singularity really can't be described as
a very small dense ball.
> You don't believe that space-time-energy are one and the
> same thing.
I do.
> You don't believe that space-time-energy = consciousness,
> feeling of zeroness having thinking ability.
Now that is a matter of faith.
> And you don't believe
> that this "CONSCIOUSNESS = MIND= GOD" creates this illusion which we
> call real universe and we live within this "real universe".
More faith.
>
> What is it which exists in our "real world" but we do not see,
> experience, feel in our "dreams"? I have seen very real streets,
> houses, buildings, people. I have five senses present in my dreams. I
> can see, I can hear, I can smell, I can taste, I can feel touch. And
> my sixth sense-Mind is also present in my dreams. I can think.
Of course. It is your mind at work both when awake and asleep.
The real question would be: If you had been born blind, would you have
visual dreams?
>
> You can say that in real world everything is logical, but in some
> dreams somethings are illogical and irrational. I have not done
> research on dreaming. But my analysis tells me that people who apply
> more logic in their life, mind of those people can construct more
> real, logical dreams.
Well... I don't know about that. I am a rather logical person, but I am
fully capable of having nonsensical dreams :-)
>
> So the mind of person which has extreme logic, can construct extreme
> realistic dreams.
>
> And I think, mind of God is more extreme logical than mind of any
> other life in universe(s). He can construct very real Dream, The
> Matrix. And if He is "awake" in his dream (which you call Lucid
> Dream), he can be in total control of his dream, whatever happens in
> his dream.
>
> At this moment, I am living, we are living in his "Lucid Dream" and he
> is in total control of me, one of the character on this earth in His
> dream.
It's a matter of faith, because we are unable to prove it, and most likely
always will be. However, I am familiar with the Buddhist (originally Vedic)
concept of the world being illusory in nature. How the universe is the
breath of Brahma - created when he exhales, and destroyed when he inhales.
I think it is very interesting that such an idea could be conceived
thousands of years ago, and actually resemble the big bang/big crunch theory
so much.
And the world is illusory. The world we experience is filtered through our
senses and the interpretation of our minds, and is therefore not
representative of how it really is. We see solid objects, rather than
agglomerations of particles, and we never see the empty space between the
atoms and within them. Not only that, but the way I see a certain thing will
differ subtly from how somebody else sees the exact same thing.
>
> Hello, Laura. I am Abhi. Still working on my Action Device. I will not
> give up until things are "up".
Ah, hello! :-)
Surely, then, you must agree that your device will only work if God dreams
that it can?
Are you sure God does?
>
> Because, for me, the only way out is up.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/abhi_yaan
>
> -Abhijeet.
> ==============================================
> Have you ever seen a dream of which you were so sure that it was real?
> What if you are unable to wake up from that dream. How would you know
> the difference between dream world and the real world?
I'd look for "glitches" ;-)
>
> -The Matrix.
> ---------------------------------------------
> Is it possible, that there are no coincidences?
>
> -Signs.
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