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   Stacey Whaley to Jimmy   
   Re: Aware while Zzz   
   14 Nov 04 01:54:43   
   
   From: internetstuff47129@yahoo.com   
      
   Hi Jimmy,   
      
   I can tell you by your use of the words "projection", and "alpha", "theta",   
   etc., you know much more than I do about the world of dreaming.  Maybe   
   someday I can speak on your level about these subjects.  I have to master   
   the art of meditation in my waking states before I can learn to do it while   
   sleeping.   
      
   I know one thing for sure, though.  When I finally do become lucid, I'll do   
   a lot more than eat chocolate!  Although I promise you, eating chocolate   
   will be one of the things I do in the lucid dreams, as well as eating   
   cheesecake.  :)   
      
   -Stacey   
      
   "Jimmy"  wrote in message   
   news:MQjld.121782$dP1.419129@newsc.telia.net...   
   > Hi Stacey and Superman. Yes this is very interesting.  :0)  I have just   
   had   
   > one obe + lucid dream myself 6 months ago. At that time i took a nap in   
   the   
   > afternoon and thought of holding a bit of consciousness untill i passed   
   into   
   > sleep. Did not work but i got aware later in the dream.   
   >   
   > Read about a woman who ate chocolate in her lucid dreams. It was better   
   than   
   > for "real", she said :0)   
   >   
   > Have you tried to meditate when the body sleeps?   
   > Maybe it is even more powerful in this energy state than alfa, theta and   
   so.   
   > Those who practise remote influencing do that here. I think the thing is   
   to   
   > influence our higher self that is like a projector for reality. But i   
   don´t   
   > know if that is correct or if it works. But even physicists are talking   
   > about a holographic universe   
   >   
   > You think it is easier to have obe while beeing aware while the body   
   sleeps?   
   > I read somewhere that the consciousness leaves the body when it sleeps.   
   > Maybe this method is better then than trying to project or to hope on   
   waking   
   > up in a dream.   
   >   
   > Best regards   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > >   Hello, I'll start by saying I'm a little new to newsgroups. But I   
   really   
   > > wanted to comment on the question. I in fact lucid   
   > >   
   > > dream every night. In fact I never lose consciousness. I've done the   
   same   
   > trick   
   > > my whole life, at least since I remember.   
   > >   
   > >  I just close my eyes, and look into the darkness, and count, "1 this is   
   a   
   > > dream," "2 this is a dream," "3 this is a dream," and so on. Before long   
   > you   
   > > start to see shapes, and fuzzy lights. After that your almost there,   
   maybe   
   > a   
   > > few more seconds. Then before you know in your in a dream. Kind of like   
   > you   
   > > just booted your self into a video game. And best of all if you learn   
   > >   
   > > how to put your body to sleep while keeping your mind awake, it's a lot   
   > easier   
   > > to stay lucid. Now don't get me wrong when I say I never lose   
   > consciousness I   
   > > just mean when I sleep or when I lay down to sleep I don't just wake up   
   > the   
   > > next day. There is a whole middle part, that most just miss or forget.   
   > >   
   > >  One of the biggest problems is people don't remember their dreams. I   
   > remember   
   > > telling my students over and over to write down their dreams as soon as   
   > they   
   > > wake up. One of the most important parts of lucid dreaming is keeping a   
   > dream   
   > > journal. It helps you remember, and the best time to write them down is   
   as   
   > soon   
   > > as you open your eyes in the morning. Just ask your self "what was I   
   > dreaming"?   
   > > Then write it down in your journal.   
   > >   
   > >  I remember when I was 4 or 5 years old thinking to my self how cool it   
   > would   
   > > be to control your dreams. When I first figured out it was possible, I   
   was   
   > > maybe 10. By that point in my life I started studying everything about   
   > lucid   
   > > dreaming I could find. I started keeping a dream journal when I was 6.   
   > That was   
   > > about 15 years ago, so I have quite a few journals. I can remember every   
   > dream   
   > > I have, and now I can enter directly into a dream as soon as I close my   
   > eyes.   
   > >   
   > >  This must seem like science fiction, but I assure you it is all fact. I   
   > even   
   > > taught a small lucid dreaming class while I was in military school, even   
   a   
   > few   
   > > uniforms came by. I would also be glad to recommend some book titles.   
   > Lucid   
   > > dreaming is a very powerful gift, once mastered it can help you in any   
   > accept   
   > > of life.   
   > >   
   > > I rehearse job interviews, first dates, and even go for a simple walk   
   > around a   
   > > mountain that doesn't exist. It's really hard for someone who has never   
   > > experienced lucid dreaming to understand how powerful, and real they can   
   > > actually be. Even if you've had 1 or 10 you still haven't experienced   
   the   
   > true   
   > > potential, maybe 8%, (in reality maybe not even that much).The more   
   > familiar   
   > > you get with your dream body, and dream journal, the better you dream   
   > detail   
   > > gets. In reality what's happening is that your dream journal is kicking   
   > in, and   
   > > you memory isn't working in auto mode any more. So you start to remember   
   > in   
   > > color, and so on. But still remember the difference in the waking world,   
   > and   
   > > the dream world.   
   > >   
   > >  That may seem like an easy one, but trust me once you understand just   
   how   
   > > powerful I'm talking about you'll agree, it would be very easy to get   
   the   
   > two   
   > > confused, and forget which is which. But, don't let that scare you from   
   > > releasing your true potential. It's a great gift that most never learn   
   to   
   > > control, just think we spend a third of our life a sleep, I would   
   > preferrer to   
   > > keep as much of my life lucid as possible considering how short life is.   
   > >   
   > > It may be a little work to master it, but anything worth doing takes   
   time,   
   > and   
   > > effort. In the end it's completely up to you when you learn to dream   
   > lucid, and   
   > > remember it. You could persuade   
   > >   
   > > your self now to goto sleep, and dream lucid, and it would work. Only   
   you   
   > can   
   > > have that kind of expectations. Lucid dreaming like anything else is a   
   > skill,   
   > > and any good skill takes work. Only this is a skill any one can learn.   
   > Your   
   > > best weapon is a dream journal, and a positive attitude.   
   > >   
   > >  I can promise you, that when you do master this skill it will be unlike   
   > > anything Xbox, or anything 1000 years later will be able to duplicate.   
   >   
   >   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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