From: jimmxx@hotmail.com
Hi! Stacey when you mentioned you will do other things than eat chocolate i
thought you ment spiritual work. But i am sorry, i never thought about
cheesecake. How stupid of me :0)
No i am not advanced at all. Just have read alot about it but practise to
learn how to explore it myself. Prejection is just astral projection. Robert
Bruce has some lessons about this - The climbing on a rope exercise.
And the Alpha, beta, Delta is just brainwaves - eeg. Correct me if i am
wrong here.
I need to learn meditation to. I donīt like the kind of meditation where we
just concentrate on a mantra or things like that. It seems more like
brainwashing. Donīt remember the name of that kind of meditation but they
say it is the true thing Buddha used, about self awarness. Observing
ourself, our thoughts, feelings and so. Same with the outside world.
Perhaps concentration exercises like a mantra can help us reach the eeg
level we want. Read something about meditating on "i am" and turn our eyes
slightly upward. This would make us lose body awarness after a while.
Perhaps obe is possible from there.
Superman, you are aware all night? Even when you are not in rem state? That
is what i meant with meditation i think. Yes i agree with you that if we
decide what we want to dream then we must be aware and in a meditative state
of mind.
Best regards
> Hi Jimmy,
>
> I can tell you by your use of the words "projection", and "alpha",
"theta",
> etc., you know much more than I do about the world of dreaming. Maybe
> someday I can speak on your level about these subjects. I have to master
> the art of meditation in my waking states before I can learn to do it
while
> sleeping.
>
> I know one thing for sure, though. When I finally do become lucid, I'll
do
> a lot more than eat chocolate! Although I promise you, eating chocolate
> will be one of the things I do in the lucid dreams, as well as eating
> cheesecake. :)
>
> -Stacey
>
> "Jimmy" wrote in message
> news:MQjld.121782$dP1.419129@newsc.telia.net...
> > Hi Stacey and Superman. Yes this is very interesting. :0) I have just
> had
> > one obe + lucid dream myself 6 months ago. At that time i took a nap in
> the
> > afternoon and thought of holding a bit of consciousness untill i passed
> into
> > sleep. Did not work but i got aware later in the dream.
> >
> > Read about a woman who ate chocolate in her lucid dreams. It was better
> than
> > for "real", she said :0)
> >
> > Have you tried to meditate when the body sleeps?
> > Maybe it is even more powerful in this energy state than alfa, theta and
> so.
> > Those who practise remote influencing do that here. I think the thing is
> to
> > influence our higher self that is like a projector for reality. But i
> donīt
> > know if that is correct or if it works. But even physicists are talking
> > about a holographic universe
> >
> > You think it is easier to have obe while beeing aware while the body
> sleeps?
> > I read somewhere that the consciousness leaves the body when it sleeps.
> > Maybe this method is better then than trying to project or to hope on
> waking
> > up in a dream.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hello, I'll start by saying I'm a little new to newsgroups. But I
> really
> > > wanted to comment on the question. I in fact lucid
> > >
> > > dream every night. In fact I never lose consciousness. I've done the
> same
> > trick
> > > my whole life, at least since I remember.
> > >
> > > I just close my eyes, and look into the darkness, and count, "1 this
is
> a
> > > dream," "2 this is a dream," "3 this is a dream," and so on. Before
long
> > you
> > > start to see shapes, and fuzzy lights. After that your almost there,
> maybe
> > a
> > > few more seconds. Then before you know in your in a dream. Kind of
like
> > you
> > > just booted your self into a video game. And best of all if you learn
> > >
> > > how to put your body to sleep while keeping your mind awake, it's a
lot
> > easier
> > > to stay lucid. Now don't get me wrong when I say I never lose
> > consciousness I
> > > just mean when I sleep or when I lay down to sleep I don't just wake
up
> > the
> > > next day. There is a whole middle part, that most just miss or forget.
> > >
> > > One of the biggest problems is people don't remember their dreams. I
> > remember
> > > telling my students over and over to write down their dreams as soon
as
> > they
> > > wake up. One of the most important parts of lucid dreaming is keeping
a
> > dream
> > > journal. It helps you remember, and the best time to write them down
is
> as
> > soon
> > > as you open your eyes in the morning. Just ask your self "what was I
> > dreaming"?
> > > Then write it down in your journal.
> > >
> > > I remember when I was 4 or 5 years old thinking to my self how cool
it
> > would
> > > be to control your dreams. When I first figured out it was possible, I
> was
> > > maybe 10. By that point in my life I started studying everything about
> > lucid
> > > dreaming I could find. I started keeping a dream journal when I was 6.
> > That was
> > > about 15 years ago, so I have quite a few journals. I can remember
every
> > dream
> > > I have, and now I can enter directly into a dream as soon as I close
my
> > eyes.
> > >
> > > This must seem like science fiction, but I assure you it is all fact.
I
> > even
> > > taught a small lucid dreaming class while I was in military school,
even
> a
> > few
> > > uniforms came by. I would also be glad to recommend some book titles.
> > Lucid
> > > dreaming is a very powerful gift, once mastered it can help you in any
> > accept
> > > of life.
> > >
> > > I rehearse job interviews, first dates, and even go for a simple walk
> > around a
> > > mountain that doesn't exist. It's really hard for someone who has
never
> > > experienced lucid dreaming to understand how powerful, and real they
can
> > > actually be. Even if you've had 1 or 10 you still haven't experienced
> the
> > true
> > > potential, maybe 8%, (in reality maybe not even that much).The more
> > familiar
> > > you get with your dream body, and dream journal, the better you dream
> > detail
> > > gets. In reality what's happening is that your dream journal is
kicking
> > in, and
> > > you memory isn't working in auto mode any more. So you start to
remember
> > in
> > > color, and so on. But still remember the difference in the waking
world,
> > and
> > > the dream world.
> > >
> > > That may seem like an easy one, but trust me once you understand just
> how
> > > powerful I'm talking about you'll agree, it would be very easy to get
> the
> > two
> > > confused, and forget which is which. But, don't let that scare you
from
> > > releasing your true potential. It's a great gift that most never learn
> to
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