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   From: laura@nospam.me   
      
   "Jeet"  wrote in message   
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   > [snip]   
   > > Look at different societies across the world. There is far more hardship   
   in   
   > > some than in others, yet the ratio of happiness vs. unhappiness is about   
   the   
   > > same. People are happy even in countries riddled with disease and   
   hunger,   
   > > where the government is unjust and to be feared. People still feel basic   
   > > human emotions - like happiness and unhappiness, regardless of the   
   > > extraneous circumstances. Perhaps the difference lies mostly in that   
   they   
   > > have a concrete target for their unhappiness, whereas those in better   
   > > societies don't (as much).   
   >   
   > I remeber that night of January 3, 1996. In the morning at about 03.00   
   > AM, I began to feel terrible pains in my left part of my head. Never   
   > had pains of such magnitude. I was alone and there was no way to go to   
   > doctor at 03.00 AM in morning. I had to go through that nightmare   
   > until 08.00 AM in morning. Terrible pains, vomitting, I was feeling   
   > like in hell.   
   >   
   > I went to doctor. Doctor gave me vasograin tablets and injection for   
   > sleeping.   
   >   
   > When I woke up in the afternoon, it was miracle. I was feeling so   
   > light and calm like I never felt before in my life. World was looking   
   > so beautiful.   
   >   
   > But that state didn't last long. By the evening, I was normal.   
   >   
   > Is it so that to feel that state of happiness, I will have to again go   
   > through such terrible pains? If it is so, I will never do that kind of   
   > experiment deliberately. Since that day, I always keep vasograin   
   > tables and sleeping pills with me. Whenever migraine strike, I take   
   > those pills without second  thought.   
   >   
   > But I think that when I woke up in the afternoon on that day, I was   
   > feeling so great and beautiful because my mind compared previous state   
   > and present state. And that difference between state of minds gave me   
   > feeling of happiness.   
      
   Yes, though part of it may have been some euphoria from the injection you   
   had.   
   Not knowing what exactly you were injected with, I can't be sure.   
      
   >   
   > To feel happy, we must go through pains. If the magnitude of pains is   
   > higher, later on magnitude of happiness will be higher. We must force   
   > our mind to other end of pains and reaction will be opposite end of   
   > happiness. Is it so?   
      
   Pretty much, I think.   
      
   >   
   > And is it so that Siddharth achieved state of happiness and knowledge   
   > because he forced himself to go through terrible pains for few years?   
      
   It wasn't happiness he achieved. It was enlightenment. Big difference.   
   Enlightenment is beyond both happiness and suffering.   
      
   >   
   > Thinking about happiness makes me sad. :)   
   >   
   > -Abhi.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)