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   Message 11,197 of 12,283   
   Pedantus to Bob Officer   
   Re: The Mental Experience   
   24 Feb 05 13:42:28   
   
   XPost: alt.astrology, alt.astrology.metapsych, alt.dreams   
   XPost: alt.psychology.jung   
   From: pedantus@hotmail.com   
      
   "Bob Officer"  wrote in message   
   news:npaq11h6u7gi30g3pnddt9akuoi20lgnc5@4ax.com...   
   > On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 01:10:34 GMT, in alt.astrology, "Pedantus"   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >>"Bob Officer"  wrote in message   
   >>news:9r5q11daoci5ik5bs9sapa8svm8qmusfkc@4ax.com...   
   >>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:45:38 GMT, in alt.astrology, "Pedantus"   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"Bob Officer"  wrote in message   
   >>>>news:soqn11lk368nrisk0jd9citppllofc99dj@4ax.com...   
   >>>>> On 22 Feb 2005 13:51:11 -0800, in alt.astrology, "E. Wollmann - The   
   >>>>> Arthurian 1"  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> [snip]   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   The brain is to the mind, what the radio is to radio waves. The   
   >>>>>>brain does not "cause" mind. The brain is the effect of mind focused   
   >>>>>>in   
   >>>>>>the physical dream. It receives mind (station).   
   >>>>>>   Because this focus keeps mind in a particular mode during the   
   >>>>>> waking   
   >>>>>>state, other aspects of the mind or psychic material are ignored   
   >>>>>>(other   
   >>>>>>stations).   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Statement as fact made without evidence... also know as bullshit...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>     Its not bullshit if its a true 'religious' belief, Bob....:)   
   >>>   
   >>> religion is the subject matter of faith (belief) accepted as fact   
   >>> without   
   >>> or in the face of contradictory evidence...   
   >>>   
   >>> an Example:   
   >>> some people accept the bible's statement that world is only 8000 years   
   >>> old   
   >>> in face of the contradictory evidence of fossils, archeology and other   
   >>> geological evidence which many millions of years old....   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   Well, Ed believes his bullshit as much as anyone believes in their   
   >>religious tenets, so how does one show him he how to separate his religion   
   >>from his bull...:)?   
   >   
   > Simple refer to his statement cited in my signature and ask the two   
   > questions: who is trying to control by using statements of faith without   
   > or   
   > contradicting evidence, or who is controlling him?   
      
      
     You got a lot of nerve asking me to read this garbage--the grammar may be   
   contagious.   
     And, I have no idea which "issue" the freed sock puppet is writing   
   about...:)   
      
   >   
   >   
   > --   
   > ME, and Me alone   
   > "That is because all religions are about controlling people, not freeing   
   > them, and freedom comes from experiencing and moving through all ideas   
   > with true understanding, whereas denial simply exacerbates the issue   
   > and inflames it." Eddy Wollmann   
   > Message ID: <1108577364.739819.215350@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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