From: actorius@westnet.com.au   
      
   "bloody hell its so fricken noisy!"   
      
   Its a comment or a variation of it that I often hear myself say during dream   
   state, and shortly after realising the noise levels I do one of two things,   
   I fall asleep so deeply i stop remembering and further dreams, or I wake.   
   What is the noise I often hear? People. Many people chatting all at once,   
   like they are vying for my attention. I have no fear of what these voices   
   are, they simply are the spirits around, some of them are my actual spirit   
   guides, human or otherwise, but many are spirits passing through, just   
   waiting for someone to talk to, even if for only a moment.   
      
   I have been trying to train myself to listen for these voices, since I know   
   if i can hear them, and simply stop my through or out of the deeper dream   
   states(so far all all i have done is reconise that there are voices, but   
   have moved on before i could react to them in the way that i want to), that   
   I will be able to spend some considerable time listening to them, learning   
   from them, or helping them. Whats frustrating is I cant seem to stop right   
   where the voices are. If I am sleeping, I often continue into the deeper   
   states of sleep, yet if I am lucid dreaming where I have had recently and on   
   more than one occassion, heard a single voice, usually saying hello or some   
   such. Problem here is its real enough that I may as well have heard it   
   spoken from someone standing next to me, and my natural reaction is to wake   
   up.   
      
   I have reconised one major pattern though. That is when I am on the way   
   "down" to deeper sleep, and have heard these voices on the way, I have woken   
   sometime later and have brief images or feelings from whatever dreams had   
   passed. I do not remember them long enough to note them (unless there is a   
   reason to remember them, IE some sort of message i must know)   
   This is opposed to when I dont hear the voices I remember naught about my   
   dreams through the night.   
      
   Anyone else have experiences like this? any tips or tricks i could try?   
   mental exercises maybe?   
      
   Advice in this manner would be greatly appreciated.   
      
   CA   
      
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