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   Dirk Bruere at NeoPax to Meltdarok   
   Re: One Eye Closed Meditation   
   05 Sep 06 21:06:34   
   
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   From: dirk.bruere@gmail.com   
      
   Meltdarok wrote:   
   > Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:   
   >> Tom wrote:   
   >>> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:4m41esF4dn4rU1@individual.net...   
   >>>> hilltopper6509@yahoo.com wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It's someone who steals something they think is Karma but is really   
   >>>> something entirely different (if it exists at all).   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Karma is simply the law of cause and effect.   
   >>>   
   >>> Maybe that's something that someone thinks is karma but it's really   
   >>> something entirely different.   
   >>>   
   >>> How about this version?  Karma is the action you believe you are   
   >>> obliged to perform.   
   >>>   
   >>> If you have done something you believe to be bad, you may feel   
   >>> obliged to do something that atones for it.  If you do something   
   >>> good, you may feel that you are entitled to act in some rewarding   
   >>> way.  If some unfortunate thing happens to you, you may want to   
   >>> consider it atonement for something you did that you believe to have   
   >>> been bad.  If some fortunate thing happens to you, you may want to   
   >>> consider it a reward for behavior you believe to be good.   
   >>>   
   >>> It really has nothing to do with any force or sentience outside   
   >>> yourself. Karma is a product of self-consciousness.  Beyond the self,   
   >>> it has no meaning at all.   
   >>   
   >> Nothing has any meaning beyond the self.   
   >>   
   >   
   > What an utterly, utterly geocentric statement.   
   >   
   > Like Alan Watts said, *nothing* can appear for   
   > *however* short a time *without* being mutually   
   > interdependent with the combined Whole.   
      
   In Quantum Mechanics it's called the Uncertainty Principle, in this   
   instance between time and energy.   
      
   FFF   
   Dirk   
      
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