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   From: dirk.bruere@gmail.com   
      
   Meltdarok wrote:   
   > Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:   
   >> Meltdarok wrote:   
   >>> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:   
   >>>> Tom wrote:   
   >>>>> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"  wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:4m41esF4dn4rU1@individual.net...   
   >>>>>> hilltopper6509@yahoo.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> It's someone who steals something they think is Karma but is   
   >>>>>> really something entirely different (if it exists at all).   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Karma is simply the law of cause and effect.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Maybe that's something that someone thinks is karma but it's really   
   >>>>> something entirely different.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> How about this version?  Karma is the action you believe you are   
   >>>>> obliged to perform.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> If you have done something you believe to be bad, you may feel   
   >>>>> obliged to do something that atones for it.  If you do something   
   >>>>> good, you may feel that you are entitled to act in some rewarding   
   >>>>> way.  If some unfortunate thing happens to you, you may want to   
   >>>>> consider it atonement for something you did that you believe to   
   >>>>> have been bad.  If some fortunate thing happens to you, you may   
   >>>>> want to consider it a reward for behavior you believe to be good.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It really has nothing to do with any force or sentience outside   
   >>>>> yourself. Karma is a product of self-consciousness.  Beyond the   
   >>>>> self, it has no meaning at all.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Nothing has any meaning beyond the self.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> What an utterly, utterly geocentric statement.   
   >>>   
   >>> Like Alan Watts said, *nothing* can appear for   
   >>> *however* short a time *without* being mutually   
   >>> interdependent with the combined Whole.   
   >>   
   >> In Quantum Mechanics it's called the Uncertainty Principle, in this   
   >> instance between time and energy.   
   >>   
   >   
   > When you reflect on your own consciousness, do you prefer to ignore the   
   > greater Whole in wondering about its (your consciousness) origin?   
      
   There is no 'greater whole' any more than there is a 'lesser whole'.   
   Such divisions are arbritrary artefacts of consciousness.   
      
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