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   From: dirk.bruere@gmail.com   
      
   Tom wrote:   
   > "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"  wrote in message   
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   >> Tom wrote:   
   >>> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:4m7n5cF4k2t0U1@individual.net...   
   >>>> Tom wrote:   
   >>>>> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"  wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:4m6irfF4ndiqU3@individual.net...   
   >>>>>> Tom wrote:   
   >>>>>>> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"  wrote in message   
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   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Or perhaps you can point me towards where 'meaning' resides outside   
   >>>>>>>> of self?   
   >>>>>>> This is linguistically inexpressible.  Meaning is not confined to   
   >>>>>>> self, but language is.   
   >>>>>> 'Meaning' is an internal subjective state.   
   >>>>>> It has no objective existence.   
   >>>>> Neither does self.   
   >>>> 'Self' does have meaning as a physical locus.   
   >>> The boundaries of self are completely arbitrary and infinitely flexible.   
   >> Then next time you go to a dentist, refuse any anaesthetic.   
   >   
   > Pain is not a function of self.  Pain is a function of the body.   
      
   The quale of pain is a function of consciousness.   
   OTOH it is quite possible to claim that every manifestation of thought,   
   feeling etc is simply 'body' or even 'just chemical reactions and   
   electrical signals'   
      
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