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   From: meltdarok@aol.com   
      
   Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:   
   > Tom wrote:   
   >> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"  wrote in message   
   >> news:4m85i3F4vo18U5@individual.net...   
   >>> Tom wrote:   
   >>>> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"  wrote in message   
   >>>> news:4m7n5cF4k2t0U1@individual.net...   
   >>>>> Tom wrote:   
   >>>>>> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>> news:4m6irfF4ndiqU3@individual.net...   
   >>>>>>> Tom wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>> news:4m63o9F4nk08U2@individual.net...   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Or perhaps you can point me towards where 'meaning' resides   
   >>>>>>>>> outside of self?   
   >>>>>>>> This is linguistically inexpressible.  Meaning is not confined   
   >>>>>>>> to self, but language is.   
   >>>>>>> 'Meaning' is an internal subjective state.   
   >>>>>>> It has no objective existence.   
   >>>>>> Neither does self.   
   >>>>> 'Self' does have meaning as a physical locus.   
   >>>> The boundaries of self are completely arbitrary and infinitely   
   >>>> flexible.   
   >>> Then next time you go to a dentist, refuse any anaesthetic.   
   >>   
   >> Pain is not a function of self.  Pain is a function of the body.   
   >   
   > The quale of pain is a function of consciousness.   
   > OTOH it is quite possible to claim that every manifestation of thought,   
   > feeling etc is simply 'body' or even 'just chemical reactions and   
   > electrical signals'   
   >   
      
   Like I said before-- how geocentric this view is.   
      
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