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   Dirk Bruere at NeoPax to Meltdarok   
   Re: One Eye Closed Meditation   
   07 Sep 06 01:18:31   
   
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   From: dirk.bruere@gmail.com   
      
   Meltdarok wrote:   
   > Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:   
   >> Tom wrote:   
   >>> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:4m85i3F4vo18U5@individual.net...   
   >>>> Tom wrote:   
   >>>>> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"  wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:4m7n5cF4k2t0U1@individual.net...   
   >>>>>> Tom wrote:   
   >>>>>>> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>> news:4m6irfF4ndiqU3@individual.net...   
   >>>>>>>> Tom wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"  wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>> message news:4m63o9F4nk08U2@individual.net...   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Or perhaps you can point me towards where 'meaning' resides   
   >>>>>>>>>> outside of self?   
   >>>>>>>>> This is linguistically inexpressible.  Meaning is not confined   
   >>>>>>>>> to self, but language is.   
   >>>>>>>> 'Meaning' is an internal subjective state.   
   >>>>>>>> It has no objective existence.   
   >>>>>>> Neither does self.   
   >>>>>> 'Self' does have meaning as a physical locus.   
   >>>>> The boundaries of self are completely arbitrary and infinitely   
   >>>>> flexible.   
   >>>> Then next time you go to a dentist, refuse any anaesthetic.   
   >>>   
   >>> Pain is not a function of self.  Pain is a function of the body.   
   >>   
   >> The quale of pain is a function of consciousness.   
   >> OTOH it is quite possible to claim that every manifestation of   
   >> thought, feeling etc is simply 'body' or even 'just chemical reactions   
   >> and electrical signals'   
   >>   
   >   
   > Like I said before-- how geocentric this view is.   
      
   As opposed to... what?   
   The illusion of infinity?   
      
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   Dirk   
      
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