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   "Absorbed"  wrote in message   
   news:1157619135.522860.312410@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...   
   >   
   > Tom wrote:   
   >> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"  wrote in message   
   >> news:4m8dluF50rgkU1@individual.net...   
   >> > Tom wrote:   
   >> >> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"  wrote in message   
   >> >> news:4m85i3F4vo18U5@individual.net...   
   >> >>> Then next time you go to a dentist, refuse any anaesthetic.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Pain is not a function of self.  Pain is a function of the body.   
   >> >   
   >> > The quale of pain is a function of consciousness.   
   >>   
   >> Consciousness is larger than self-consciousness.  But people who have not   
   >> have the experience of consciousness beyond self don't usually understand   
   >> that.  As we see here.   
   >   
   > What experience? Like having your own quango?   
      
   No.  Dress-up clubs and the like won't be of much use in this.  Fortunately,   
   it's not all that difficult to explain how to achieve the experience,   
   although it seems very difficult to put into practice at first.   
      
   I explained it to Corey earlier in the thread, but I don't think he's ready   
   to give it a try.   
      
   "Look, it's really simple.  Don't talk.  Not to others and not to yourself.   
   Don't indulge in anticipation of future events.  Don't indulge in memories   
   of past events.  Just look at the world around you without trying to explain   
   it or control it.  It helps to pay attention to your breathing without   
   forcing it in any way."   
      
   Keep at it until you no longer are puzzled by what experience I mean.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)