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   David Mitchell to All   
   Re: lucid dream vs. astral travel   
   10 Nov 06 10:40:11   
   
   XPost: alt.out-of-body   
   From: david@edenroad.demon.co.uk   
      
   On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 12:44:54 -0800, Blue_Beard wrote:   
      
   > Hi David,   
   >   
   > "David Mitchell"  wrote   
   >   
   >> The "sceptical" explanation is that the experience is little more than a   
   >> form of hallucination, and that sometimes the scene, crafted as it is from   
   >> memory and imagination, is wrong.   
   >   
   > I, of course, have thought of that as well.  Some times the environment is   
   > so real, there are other entities, people there that I interact with   
   > consciously, and I go where I please (sometimes the environment changes   
   > without my control), just like I would in the 'real' world.  Except that at   
   > times I am a lot lighter and can do what I intend to do (if I'm not putting   
   > too much thought into *how* to do it).  Sometimes an entity is showing me   
   > things that I need to know (I think I know the mystical explanation of this   
   > one), but what I'm trying to figure ouy is that is this all in a dream?  am   
   > I actually OB going different places?  or is there even any difference (I'm   
   > starting to suspect).   
      
   No one knows for sure; but Occams razor certainly supports the more   
   mundane explanation.   
      
   Ask your "entities" to tell you something you couldn't possibly know,   
   preferably something no one else in the world knows (for example the   
   orbital parameters of a planet we don't know about yet).   
      
   >> There are a number of "mystical" explanations, none of which are even   
   >> faintly plausible, IMO.   
   >   
   > Please let me know, I'd like to look at all sides of this.   
      
   The usual one is that you have somehow found yourself in a parallel   
   dimension, either one of the parallel universes required by the MWI of QM,   
   or one of the "astral planes" which conveniently exist to explain things   
   like this ;-)   
      
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   = David    --- No, not that one.   
   = Mitchell ---   
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