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   Message 11,690 of 12,283   
   David Mitchell to All   
   Re: lucid dream vs. astral travel   
   12 Nov 06 07:06:45   
   
   XPost: alt.out-of-body   
   From: david@edenroad.demon.co.uk   
      
   On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:55:56 -0800, BB wrote:   
      
   >   
   > "h elmer | espeance"  wrote   
   >   
   >> to answer you 1st, it could be, it could also be that you are   
   >> interpretting imprints of physical matter, or on other levels,   
   >> interpretting energy into the closest way that your mind allows   
   >   
   > I can see that, its quite unstable   
   >   
   >> my use of "phase shifting" means it is a dimension we don't normally   
   >> see with our physical eyes, but is an analog, a mirror of physical   
   >> reality, like but not exact, a different "phase" of reality that we're   
   >> open to when we're ob   
   >   
   > So what you are stating is that: when ob, its only to another actual place   
   > mirroring our own, than just ob into the real material world?   
   > Can experiments be done in that way?  Like the book experiment, I think   
   > David was speaking of?   
      
   Not really.  Think about it: how would you set up the experiment _in   
   another dimension_?   
      
   The only thing experiments like that could tell you is that it's not   
   objectively real; which we already suspect.   
      
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