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|    David Mitchell to rolandberry    |
|    Re: lucid dream vs. astral travel    |
|    12 Nov 06 10:06:32    |
      XPost: alt.out-of-body       From: david@edenroad.demon.co.uk              On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 23:08:02 -0800, rolandberry wrote:              > Can you think of a suitable protocol for an experiment for testing the       > objective reality of the OB state that would require beating at least a       > one in a million chance? I think this would be useful and good       > protocols are hard to come up with.              The simple protocol I recommend to get people started is that of remotely       observing a number of playing cards in a difficult location.              Typically, I suggest that people shuffle a pack, and deal one or more       cards face up onto a high surface, such as a shelf or wardrobe.              Getting the colour of the cards correct has odds of 2^n, where n is the       number of cards, getting the values correct has odds of 1/(52*51*50...)       where there are the same number of terms in brackets as there are cards.              So, with four cards, the odds of getting them exactly right is 1/6,497,400              FWIW, in all the time I've been suggesting this protocol, no-one has ever       told me they have succeeded with even _one_ card.              --       =======================================================================       = David --- No, not that one.       = Mitchell ---       =======================================================================              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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