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   "bassos"    
   Re: stopping voices in head/ urgent/ hel   
   19 Jun 09 09:03:31   
   
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   "Tom"  wrote in message   
   news:1f96a50a-bf75-4193-a72b-1b272b1ee90c@p5g2000pre.googlegroups.com...   
   On Jun 18, 9:27 am, "bassos"  wrote:   
   > "Tom"  wrote in message   
   >   
   > news:f31d39ba-eea3-4a34-8598-9205c6ad350a@n7g2000prc.googlegroups.com...   
   > On Jun 18, 7:58 am, "Ato_Zee"  wrote:   
   >   
   > > > > If they, the "voices",   
   >   
   > > Hearing voices can be part of the multiple personality condition.   
   >   
   > **   
   > If there really is a "multiple personality condition" in the first   
   > place.   
   > **   
   >   
   > Indeed, in general, MPS peeps do not hear voices.   
      
   **   
   From what I've been able to piece together, they'll tell you that they   
   hear voices if they think you'll pay attention to them for it.   
   **   
      
   That is, if there are no actual real mps cases.   
      
   > If there would be interaction between the personalities, it would not be   
   > mps, but more schyzophrenia.   
      
   **   
   The facilitation of interaction between dissociated "personalities" is   
   generally the process by which therapists attempt to alleviate the   
   problem of "MPD".  It does not produce schizophrenia.   
   **   
      
   Disorder, syndrom, same difference ;)   
      
   I prefer syndrom cos disorder immediately claims it is wrong.   
   (thereby inducing 'patient' behaviour and such things as catering to the   
   doctor like claiming to hear voices, and dissociative identity disorder   
   suffers from both the patient making and the all spooky and unfamiliar   
   looking dissociative; so mps)   
      
   But schyzophrenia does produce actual perceived voices.   
      
   So if you actually are hearing voices, chances for schizo are higher than   
   for mps.   
      
   > There's a good deal of evidence to suggest that, if it exists   
   > at all, it is induced in a manner similar to false memory syndrome   
   > rather than arising spontaneously.   
   > **   
   >   
   > The 24 faces of Eve beg to differ.   
   > (just a random number higher than 3)   
      
   **   
   You know better than to argue with me using half-remembered anecdotes   
   as your evidence.   
   **   
      
   Only half remembering the amount of personalities she actually displayed.   
   It was more than 3, but the movie about her was called the 3 faces of eve.   
      
   apparantly it was 20   
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Costner_Sizemore   
      
   Evidence for actual mps in her case was quite convincing.   
   Hell, i've seen an mps person for whom a particular personality was blind,   
   and some other ones where not.   
   (that one is not well documented, but it does look quite impressive :P)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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