From: dicksilk@gmail.com   
      
   On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 8:33:01 AM UTC-6, sandy wrote:   
   > On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 12:33:25 PM UTC-6, dick.... wrote:    
      
   > Hello Dick,    
   > Wondering why you keep referring to yourself as the dreamer? For me it is   
   confusing, like you are talking about somebody else.    
   > Sandy$    
      
   Fair question :-)  I *thought* I had described this earlier (in the past) but   
   since you asked (ask and ye shall receive!):  It has occurred to me on more   
   than one occasion that the perspective of the view being reported / blogged   
   MAY NOT necessarily be    
   that of the individual writing up the account.  For instance, let's assume   
   (and I REALLY mean "assume" here!) that "I" (Richard) "dream" that "I" am   
   about to give birth.  "I" can FEEL the head of the baby as it pushes against   
   my pelvis / sacral area.  I    
   had such a dream several years ago on the night of July 24th, the morning of   
   July 25th (my birthdate) and even posted it here in this forum (alt.dreams)   
   somewhere back in time.  Later that day, IN REAL LIFE, I received notice that   
   my sister, Cynthia, was    
   at the hospital, giving birth a week or so ahead of her due date in August.  I   
   went to her room, and only had time to wish her well and place my hand upon   
   her right shoulder (from behind) when she said curtly, something to the effect   
   of "Thank you, now    
   get out."  In her condition at that time, that was what one could describe as   
   an unquestionable order.  So *very* shortly thereafter, my nephew Ben was born.   
      
   This is perhaps THE most descriptive example I can present of where "the   
   dreamer" represents someone OTHER than the individual relating the dream.    
   Sure, my (late) sister and I share a familial (as well as genetic) bond /   
   traits (she was a full sister,    
   not half or step or foster or anything like that.)  To say "I" had the dream,   
   OK, sure, "I" had the dream.  I certainly posted it.  But "who", exactly, was   
   the personage IN the dream?  It was entirely from the perspective of my   
   sister, and as "the    
   dreamer," I coulda sworn that if I had pushed one more time, something down in   
   my pelvic / sacral area would "break" apart.  The object being "pushed" felt   
   entirely like a bowling ball being pressed out of "my" abdomen.  Since "I" am   
   Cynthia's BROTHER (a    
   genetic XY male from birth!) it is clear (to me, at any rate) that this   
   demonstrates a need to identify these "dreams" as being from the perspective   
   of "the dreamer", because saying "I" did or thought something within a dream   
   is, in my opinion, FAR too    
   egotistical a position, and certainly a VERY questionable one at times.  There   
   are VERY *few* instances where "I" feel as if "I AM" the dreamer.  I've only   
   heard my first name used ONCE in a dream that I can recall off the top of my   
   head, and even then,    
   the incident involved "the dreamer" spinning about 180° in order to face the   
   person / presence who had been "behind" the dreamer.   
      
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