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|    MI5-Persecution: Why do you think MI5 ar    |
|    16 Dec 07 11:36:17    |
      XPost: alt.buttered.scones, alt.ham-radio.hf, alt.nurse       XPost: sci.electronics              Why do you think MI5 are responsible?              The question of who is ultimately responsible for this eight-year       harassment is one which is very difficult to answer, as the persecutors       have never clearly made their identities known to the persecutee. However,       I believe I am correct in attributing the continuing victimisation to       elements of the British Security Service MI5, and in this article, I will       try to explain the reasons for this belief.              The British internet magazine ".net" featured my website on page 17 of       their March 1998 issue (number 42). Their review kindly describes it as an       "excellent site" and gives some details of what the net surfer will find       there. Should you wish to reply to this article you can do so;              "When did you first suspect MI5 were responsible?"              Over Easter 1995 I went to see a local solicitor in London with a view to       talking to the police about the harassment. Soon afterwards I did go to my       local police station in Clapham and spoke to an officer there. The       solicitor made a comment which suggested to me that the persecution I had       been experiencing may have been organised by an intelligence service.              Up to this point, I did not have any clear idea as to who was behind the       harassment. Only their agents were visible, in the media, on television       news programmes, and on the radio; in the workplace, where things said at       my home were repeated verbatim; and in some cases abuse in public and       during travel, for example on the trip to Poland in June 1992 which I have       already described.              Both from the fact that widely disparate individuals and organisations       were employed as agents in the campaign against me, and from the fact that       an entity would be required to marshal their resources in the areas of       spying on my home and giving gathered information to their agents, it was       clear to me that a single entity was responsible for carrying out the       campaign. Yet from June 1990 until Easter 1995 I did not have a clear idea       of who might be responsible. I guessed that perhaps some private       individual or group of persons who saw themselves as my enemies had       perhaps paid private detectives to organise the harassment. Alternatively,       since the campaign had started in the media, I made a far-fetched       supposition that perhaps it was an ad-hoc group of media people who had       set themselves up in opposition to me. After Easter 1995 I saw that these       guesses were wrong, and I made an I believe much more accurate estimate as       to who my enemies really are.              "Why couldn't a private group be behind the persecution?"              There are several reasons why a private individual or group would not be       behind this campaign.              Quantity of resources / Money. Here is what one Usenet (internet       newsgroup) participant had to say (several years ago) on the topic of how       much money it would cost just to keep the surveillance going.              PM: >But why? And why you? Do you realize how much it would cost to keep       PM: >one person under continuous surveillance for five years? Think about       PM: >all the man/hours. Say they _just_ allocated a two man team and a       PM: >supervisor. OK., Supervisor's salary, say, #30,000 a year. Two men,       PM: >#20,000 a year each. But they'd need to work in shifts -- so it would       PM: >be six men at #20,000 (which with on-costs would work out at more       like       PM: >#30,000 to the employer.)       PM: >       PM: >So, we're talking #30,000 x 6. #180,000. plus say, #40,000 for the       PM: >supervisor. #220,000. Then you've got the hardware involved. And       PM: >any transcription that needs doing. You don't think the 'Big Boss'       PM: >would listen to hours and hours of tapes, do you.       PM: >       PM: >So, all in all, you couldn't actually do the job for much less than       PM: >a quarter million a year. Over five years. What are you doing that       makes       PM: >it worth the while of the state to spend over one and a quarter       million       PM: >on you?              A private individual or group would not spend over a million pounds to       verbally torture a victim without some financial motive or gain. Private       industry is driven by the profit motive, and there is no financial profit       to be had from carrying out a campaign in this way. If a private       enterprise were behind it then they would have taken direct physical       action a long time ago.              State enterprises, on the other hand, can afford to be wasteful, since       they are funded by the taxpayer. They do not have to show a money       profit. The employees or contractors employed by a state organisation such       as MI5 are driven by their own personal profit motives, to make the most       money out of their employers for the longest period of time. MI5 is funded       to the tune of #150M p.a.; even a few hundred thousand a year would to       them be affordable if their managers could convince themselves of the       necessity of what they were doing.              Quality of resources / Technical resources - electronic and other       surveillance. In summer 1994 a reputable and competent private detective       agency was employed to conduct a counter-surveillance sweep of my home in       London. They charged us over #400 for this, conducted a thorough search       for radio transmitting devices, hard-wired "probe" microphones and also       tested the telephone line. They found nothing. This was not altogether       surprising, since it had been made very clear to me that there were bugs       in my home; the "buggers" would not have made this clear unless they had       felt their bugs were of sufficient sophistication as to be safe from       detection.              But there is another lesson to be gained from the failure of the private       detectives to find anything. The agency employed was one of the most       reputable in London. They were employed on the principle of "setting a       thief to catch a thief", for if the harassment were being carried out by       private detectives, as I then believed, then surely another set of private       detectives would be able to find the bugs that they had planted. That       these "private eyes" were unable to find anything, and that the harassers       were confident that they would not be able to find any bugs, points to the       harassers being an order of sophistication above a private agency, and       leads me again to believe that a state intelligence service is responsible       for the surveillance and harassment.              Quality of resources / Technical resources - Interception of Postal       service. In summer 1994 when I emigrated to Canada to try to escape the       harassment, I wrote letters home to my family and friends in London. Quite       soon after my arrival in Canada, the harassers were able to find precisely       where I was staying. The only way I can see of "their" being able to find       out my new address was by interception of my letters to the UK.              Later in 1994, I conducted an experiment to see if my letters home were       indeed being read. In a letter home I wrote of being depressed and talked       in vague terms of suicide. I deliberately chose this topic, since I       believed it was the outcome my harassers were trying to achieve, and that              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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