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   Espressopithecus (Java Man to All   
   Re: Relay Behavior -- Any Ideas?   
   10 May 08 20:39:58   
   
   From: rickk@letterectomyTELUS.net   
      
   In article ,   
   jfields@austininstruments.com says...   
   > On Sat, 10 May 2008 03:49:31 GMT, Espressopithecus (Java Man)   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >   
   > >Like more espresso machines, mine has a pressure switch connected to the   
   > >boiler that "tells" the relay to close whenever the temperature in the   
   > >boiler is below ~ 225F, and to open when the boiler exceeds ~ 235F.  The   
   > >switching device that does this is functioning normally.  I can't tell   
   > >how to troubleshoot this danged thing.  I could always buy a new master   
   > >control board, but the darned thing is $483, and I don't really want to   
   > >buy and install it, only to discover that it wasn't the problem.   
   > >   
   > >Is it conceivable that the circuit board might have a function   
   > >programmed into it to open the relay in the event of a high current   
   > >reading (I.e. short)??   
   >   
   > ---   
   > Yup, but probably anything higher than, say, 12 or 15 amps or so...   
   > ---   
   >   
   > > Wow, I'll bet that would burn the contacts!   
   >   
   > ---   
   > Not likely.  You'll have the wiring resistance in there, so current   
   > will be limited somewhat by that, and the heater is running on AC, so   
   > once the relay opens any arc formed across the contacts will be   
   > quenched  when the voltage across the contacs goes through zero.   
   >   
   > Since you know you have a bad heater and you're going to have to   
   > replace it no matter what, what I'd do would be to buy a new one,   
   > install it, and see what happens.   
   >   
   > Short of that, if you have an appliance (laundry iron, hair dryer)   
   > which dissipates 1200 watts or so, say +/- 10%,  I'd hook it up in   
   > place of the heater, momentarily, just to see if the relay maintained   
   > its clicking behavior.  If it did, I'd suspect a problem with the   
   > controller in addition to the one with the burned-out heater.   
   >   
   Thanks -- that is a common-sense and practical suggestion even I can   
   try.  I'll do it.   
      
   Rick   
      
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