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   XPost: misc.consumers   
   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   RGrannus wrote   
   > Rod Speed wrote   
   >> RGrannus wrote:   
      
   >>> Thanks for the information. Now all I have to do   
   >>> is pick a DVD recorder, which seem to range   
   >>> from $60 to several hundred dollars on Amazon.   
      
   >> I dont bother with DVDs anymore, keep stuff on   
   >> 2TB hard drives used in a docking station now.   
   >> Much cheaper than DVDs. 2TB is the best $/GB currently.   
      
   > Do you have any problems interfacing the docking   
   > station with the video comonents (DVD/VHS and TV)?   
      
   No, because I capture stuff using a PC.   
      
   > The docking stations I've seen had USB   
   > or some computer-type connector.   
      
   Yes.   
      
   > Video equipment (at least mine) doesn't have computer-type connectors.   
      
   Quite a few do support USB.   
      
   > Do you use a connector adaptor?   
      
   No, because I capture using a PC most of the time.   
      
   The set top box does have a USB port and I normally captured to a USB   
   stick and then moved what was on that to the docking station using a PC.   
   I dont use that to capture anymore, I have just rebuilt that PC completely   
   so it can capture everything broadcast itself and so dont need to use the   
   set top box when I am recording all the 3 channels the previous PC could   
   do simultaneously and needed to record another, usually just for the   
   overlap between programs etc.   
      
   You could just use a DVD-RW for the immediate movement   
   of say VHS to DVD and then use a PC to move the stuff   
   from DVD to a 2TB hard drive in a docking station.   
      
   >>> gordonb.d2...@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) wrote   
   >>>>> I have an Optimum DVR and Sony VHS/DVD player. The DVR is nearly   
   >>>>> full. I know you can get another DVR to extend capacity, but only   
   >>>>> once, and   
   >>   
   >>>> You can get another DVR indefinitely, although eventually you might   
   >>>> have to get another warehouse to store all of them and some kind of   
   >>>> giant switch to connect to the right one.   
   >>   
   >>>>> if you move you have to take a new DVR from Optimum.(It's happened   
   >>>>> to me) I've been transfering to the VHS without problem.   
   >>   
   >>>> The basic idea here is:   
   >>>> connect output of the source device (DVR, live TV, or VCR) to the   
   >>>> input of the destination device (DVD recorder). Press PLAY on the   
   >>>> source device and RECORD on the destination device. STOP both when   
   >>>> the show is over. I'm sure you've done this plenty of times with   
   >>>> the VCR.   
   >>   
   >>>> It is possible you will run afoul of copy protection restrictions.   
   >>>> Chances are what devices you use won't matter much here.   
   >>   
   >>>> The connection you use will determine the quality. In decreasing   
   >>>> quality:   
   >>   
   >>>> - HDMI/DVI (not sure if this is possible, mostly due   
   >>>> to copy protection paranoia) (digital)   
   >>>> Does any DVD Recorder have a HDMI *input*?   
   >>>> - Component video (red/green/blue video jacks, red/white sound)   
   >>>> (analog)   
   >>>> - S/Video cable (analog)   
   >>>> - RCA cable (red/white/yellow jacks) (analog)   
   >>>> - RF modulator (ick!)   
   >>   
   >>>>> I'd like to transfer from DVR to DVD and VHS to DVD. Is this   
   >>>>> possible with an ordinary DVD recorder, or do I need to get a   
   >>>>> particular type (know of a good model)?   
   >>   
   >>>> Figure out what *outputs* you have, then get a DVD recorder with   
   >>>> the same type of *inputs*, and a corresponding cable.   
   >>>> If your TV is analog, you want your DVD recorder to have analog   
   >>>> outputs (possibly along with digital ones).   
   >>   
   >>>> Some DVD recorders also have a hard disk. This feature comes at a   
   >>>> price but it makes it a lot easier to arrange stuff before you   
   >>>> record it on the DVD. I use an old DVR/DVD recorder. It's analog,   
   >>>> so the tuner and time-and-channel recording no longer works. It   
   >>>> allows editing and has a fairly large hard disk, so I can transfer,   
   >>>> for example, all the episodes of a series, trim off junk at the   
   >>>> beginning, end, and commercial breaks, and put them in order, then   
   >>>> transfer them to individual disks.   
   >>   
   >>>>> Do you just buy more disks for the recorder   
   >>>>> as you fill them up, like a VHS? Any type of disk?   
   >>   
   >>>> You probably want DVD-R or DVD+R disks (record *once). I don't   
   >>>> think the extra cost of DVD-RW disks gets you much benefit in   
   >>>> re-using them, assuming you are planning to archive shows   
   >>>> essentially forever. You record on them once, possibly in several   
   >>>> parts, but once you fill it, you're stuck with what's on it.   
   >>   
   >>>> Which of DVD-R or DVD+R do you want? Ones which your recorder can   
   >>>> record and (*all*) your players can play (the answer is decidedly   
   >>>> *NOT* always "both" for any old equipment you might have around.   
   >>>> Some might do both but one at a lower speed). It's not a matter of   
   >>>> which is "better", it's a matter of which square peg fits in a   
   >>>> pentagonal hole. Also investigate which type of disks cost more -   
   >>>> lately they seem to be the same. With really new equipment, it may   
   >>>> not matter. Read the manuals for your equipment.   
   >>   
   >>>> Panasonic DVD/DVR recorders have the alternative of DVD-RAM disks,   
   >>>> which can be thought of as mini-hard disks. Record, delete,   
   >>>> re-record, edit, etc. repeatedly. Sure, they eventually will wear   
   >>>> out if you re-record often (so do VHS tapes, for both recording and   
   >>>> playing). Also, their capacity is limited to that of a DVD. They   
   >>>> also cost a lot more than regular DVD+/-R blanks.   
   >>   
   >>>> If you're doing digital-to-digital DVD recording, there may be no   
   >>>> quality settings. With analog, there usually are. After you get   
   >>>> your DVD recorder, try out the different qualities and see which   
   >>>> setting you like, trading off quality vs. the recording time per   
   >>>> disk. I get decent quality (non-HD digital TV converted locally   
   >>>> to analog with a converter box) with 4 hours/disk. 6 hours/disk   
   >>>> was a bit much. 1 hour/disk chews up a lot of disks with little   
   >>>> gain in quality over the 4-hour setting. If you record a lot of   
   >>>> action sports and don't want the ball disappearing, you may need   
   >>>> more quality. Try it yourself.   
   >>   
   >>>>> I have a   
   >>>>> relatively new system but it's not Hi-Def and not set to digital.   
   >>>>> I   
   >>>>> assume the Optimum technician set it that way because of the VHS.   
   >>>>> So   
   >>>>> I'd set it Cable input to DVR to VHS/DVD player to DVD recorder to   
   >>>>> TV.   
   >>   
   >>>> If some of your devices have more than one input or output (my   
   >>>> analog TV has 3 inputs, plus the RF input which is no longer   
   >>>> useful) selectable via the remote control I'd recommend slightly   
   >>>> different wiring:   
   >>   
   >>>> /------------------------------------\   
   >>>> cable box -> DVR ------------------> DVD Recorder -> TV   
   >>>> \-> VHS/DVD Player--/ /   
   >>>> \-----------------/   
   >>   
   >>>> Using a setup like the above, you can do things like:   
   >>   
   >>>> Transfer a VHS tape to the DVD recorder *AND* simultaneously watch   
   >>>> live TV or from the DVR.   
   >>   
   >>>> Transfer a recording from the DVR to the DVD recorder *AND*   
      
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