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|    colonel_hack@yahoo.com to Uncle Peter    |
|    Re: 180 degrees out of phase    |
|    18 May 14 22:25:09    |
      On Fri, 16 May 2014, Uncle Peter wrote:       >       > But I wonder if it would help reduce the meter reading?       >       No. The coil and the capacitor add up (ideally) to zero impedence, so it's       like you put a wire accoss the mains. It burns and/or the breaker/fuse       opens. For real components the coil & cap still cancel out and leave       basically the resistance of the coil, which for a ``large'' coil is       probably small, so again bad things happen.              But you have a basic fallacy anyway. At resonance the current is /in/       phase with the voltage, the capacitive and inductive reactance cancel out       so the circuit looks purely resistive.              If you like complex impedences (and adding a bit of series R &       using the EE jxj=-1 & w standing in for omega = 2 pi f)              XL=jwL       XC=1/jwC       Z=jwL+1/jwC+R              at resonance w=sqrt(1/LC)       Z=j( sqrt(1/LC)L-1/sqrt(1/LC)C )+R=j( sqrt(L/C)-sqrt(L/C) )+R=R       I=V/R              and              VL=(V/R)jwL = j(V/R)sqrt(L/C)       VC=(V/R)(1/jwC)=-j(V/R)sqrt(L/C)              The voltages on the cap & coil are 90 out of phase with the currrent and       180 out with each other so they add to zero but can be very large       depending on the choice of R, L & C (and clearly they as well as the       current get large as R gets small).              If you did have current 180 out of phase with voltage you would have to be       supplying power and the meter ``should'' run backwards (it may or may not,       depending on design) but the power company doesn't normally buy power at       the rate they sell it so they wouldn't like it.               Ron              aye means yes to a sailor       eye in a needle I can thread       i is the imaginary unit       but EEs use j instead              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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