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   rickman to James Wilkinson Sword   
   Re: Running an empty microwave oven   
   30 Dec 17 15:31:14   
   
   XPost: sci.electronics.equipment   
   From: gnuarm@gmail.com   
      
   James Wilkinson Sword wrote on 12/30/2017 9:37 AM:   
   > On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 05:39:04 -0000, Robert Baer    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> James Wilkinson Sword wrote:   
   >>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 03:59:42 -0000, Robert Baer   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> James Wilkinson Sword wrote:   
   >>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 03:49:55 -0000, rickman  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> James Wilkinson Sword wrote on 12/11/2017 11:50 AM:   
   >>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 04:07:43 -0000, Mary-Jane Rottencrotch   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 2007-01-19 12:13, Peter Fucker wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> Is it really true that turning on a microwave with nothing in it   
   >>>>>>>>> will   
   >>>>>>>>> break it?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Derp.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> It was a sensible question.  This could be done by accident.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I interviewed with a place once that was doing something with testing   
   >>>>>> microwave ovens.  They ran them all the time with nothing in them.   
   >>>>>> I had   
   >>>>>> always read that you should not operate them with nothing to absorb the   
   >>>>>> energy and mentioned that.  I got a strange look from the guy.   
   >>>>>> Obviously   
   >>>>>> the energy that would be absorbed is within the limits of what the   
   >>>>>> ovens   
   >>>>>> were designed to get rid of.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You'd think there would be something that absorbs microwaves that miss   
   >>>>> the food.  And you'd think such a thing would have a thermal cutout.   
   >>>>> Anybody want to try it?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>    IDIOT!   
   >>>>    ain't nuttin that "absorbs" the energy.   
   >>>>    Ask how the maggie works with highly mis-matched loads (hi SWR).   
   >>>   
   >>> I went for an interview in a place that designed industrial strength   
   >>> magnetron.  There IS a block to absorb energy.  A microwave oven without   
   >>> one is VERY badly designed.   
   >>>   
   >>    Rule of thumb or any commercial (= = volume) item is: for every fifty   
   >> cent cost to make, selling price must go up by five dollars (cars, toys,   
   >> etc).   
   >>    Industrial grade magge-powered ovens cost a lot more than the over   
   >> the counter el-cheapos that the great unwashed buy.   
   >   
   > Why would you need to make $4.50 extra because you spend $0.50 more on the   
   > production?   
      
   I don't know that it is 10 to 1, but the $0.50 higher production cost means   
   the price is elevated at each step of the distribution process.  Most costs   
   of handling, storage, promotion and retailing are allocated by price.  Raise   
   the price from the manufacturer by 10% and the final sale price also goes up   
   10%, not the exact dollar rise of manufacturing.   
      
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