XPost: sci.electronics.equipment   
   From: imvalid@somewear.com   
      
   On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 20:31:14 -0000, rickman  wrote:   
      
   > James Wilkinson Sword wrote on 12/30/2017 9:37 AM:   
   >> On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 05:39:04 -0000, Robert Baer    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> James Wilkinson Sword wrote:   
   >>>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 03:59:42 -0000, Robert Baer   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> James Wilkinson Sword wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 03:49:55 -0000, rickman  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> James Wilkinson Sword wrote on 12/11/2017 11:50 AM:   
   >>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 04:07:43 -0000, Mary-Jane Rottencrotch   
   >>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2007-01-19 12:13, Peter Fucker wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> Is it really true that turning on a microwave with nothing in it   
   >>>>>>>>>> will   
   >>>>>>>>>> break it?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Derp.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It was a sensible question.  This could be done by accident.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I interviewed with a place once that was doing something with testing   
   >>>>>>> microwave ovens.  They ran them all the time with nothing in them.   
   >>>>>>> I had   
   >>>>>>> always read that you should not operate them with nothing to absorb the   
   >>>>>>> energy and mentioned that.  I got a strange look from the guy.   
   >>>>>>> Obviously   
   >>>>>>> the energy that would be absorbed is within the limits of what the   
   >>>>>>> ovens   
   >>>>>>> were designed to get rid of.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> You'd think there would be something that absorbs microwaves that miss   
   >>>>>> the food.  And you'd think such a thing would have a thermal cutout.   
   >>>>>> Anybody want to try it?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>    IDIOT!   
   >>>>>    ain't nuttin that "absorbs" the energy.   
   >>>>>    Ask how the maggie works with highly mis-matched loads (hi SWR).   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I went for an interview in a place that designed industrial strength   
   >>>> magnetron.  There IS a block to absorb energy.  A microwave oven without   
   >>>> one is VERY badly designed.   
   >>>>   
   >>>    Rule of thumb or any commercial (= = volume) item is: for every fifty   
   >>> cent cost to make, selling price must go up by five dollars (cars, toys,   
   >>> etc).   
   >>>    Industrial grade magge-powered ovens cost a lot more than the over   
   >>> the counter el-cheapos that the great unwashed buy.   
   >>   
   >> Why would you need to make $4.50 extra because you spend $0.50 more on the   
   >> production?   
   >   
   > I don't know that it is 10 to 1, but the $0.50 higher production cost means   
   > the price is elevated at each step of the distribution process.  Most costs   
   > of handling, storage, promotion and retailing are allocated by price.  Raise   
   > the price from the manufacturer by 10% and the final sale price also goes up   
   > 10%, not the exact dollar rise of manufacturing.   
      
   It costs no more to shift a microwave oven through the retail system if a   
   component inside it costs $0.50 more.  If I was a shop selling microwaves, I'd   
   want a fixed profit per unit, not a percentage.   
      
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