XPost: alt.home.repair, uk.d-i-y, alt.sci.physics   
   From: William_Gothberg@internet.co.is   
      
   On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 13:47:59 -0000, trader_4  wrote:   
      
   > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 7:02:24 PM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:   
   >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 23:56:15 -0000, "William Gothberg"   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 23:41:32 -0000, Max Demian    
   wrote:   
   >> >   
   >> >> On 30/12/2018 17:11, William Gothberg wrote:   
   >> >>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 09:10:46 -0000, Andy Bennet  wrote:   
   >> >>>> On 29/12/2018 18:21, % wrote:   
   >> >>   
   >> >>>>> and then re wire the house and when you use it ,   
   >> >>>>> you can watch the hydro disk spin like a top   
   >> >>>>   
   >> >>>> LOL. I have a 14.4kW electric boiler. That's what I call spin.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> Spin?  Does anyone still have those old mechanical meters?   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Me! Me! Me!   
   >> >   
   >> >Why are you so excited about it?   
   >> >   
   >> >>> Mine just   
   >> >>> blinks an LED.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> I was in a place with one of those. Spit!   
   >> >   
   >> >Why spit?  They're probably more accurate.   
   >> >   
   >> >> With the spinning disc I can calculate the instantaneous power   
   >> >> consumption, which all those fancy "smart meters" can do.   
   >> >   
   >> >Mine is not a smart meter, I would have to be held at gunpoint to have   
   that installed in my house.  My energy supplier (EDF) has attempted to contact   
   me 30 times by phone and 5 times by letter to get one. They are blocked on my   
   phone (although it    
   does register every attempt to phone me, which is a source of amusement - not   
   once did they bother leaving an answerphone message).  Letters go in the bin   
   where they belong.   
   >>   
   >> Nobody ever even asked me. One day a guy knocked on the door and said   
   >> the power would be off a little while. By I got my shoes on and got   
   >> out there to see what they were doing, the new meter was installed and   
   >> he was snapping a seal on the ring.   
   >   
   > Still have the old spinners here in NJ, at least for existing homes.   
   > IDK what they are using on new ones, probably the electronic ones.   
   > They did switch out the water meters about 15 years ago so that they   
   > can read those just driving down the street.  Gas meter is still the   
   > mechanical ones and they swapped that out, as required by law, a couple   
   > years ago, so I presume they aren't converting to electronic either.   
      
   Seriously?  Your country allows changing of a meter without the homeowners   
   permission?!?   
      
   And water meters?  Oh my god.  I can use as much fucking water as I like, it's   
   flat rate.  Water falls from the sky, it's free!  If I was forced to use a   
   meter I'd install my own collection system!   
      
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