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   From: CFKinsey@military.org.jp   
      
   On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:43:20 -0000, trader_4  wrote:   
      
   > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 10:58:16 AM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 13:26:42 -0000, trader_4  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 6:26:03 AM UTC-5, angelica...@yahoo.com   
   wrote:   
   >> >> On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 3:58:10 PM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey wrote:   
   >> >> > On Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:00:40 -0000,    
   wrote:   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> > > On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 5:39:43 PM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey   
   wrote:   
   >> >> > >> On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 11:34:40 -0000,    
   wrote:   
   >> >> > >>   
   >> >> > >> > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 3:24:35 PM UTC-5, William   
   Gothberg wrote:   
   >> >> > >> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 20:20:18 -0000, trader_4  wrote:   
   >> >> > >> >>   
   >> >> > >> >> > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 12:16:27 PM UTC-5, William   
   Gothberg wrote:   
   >> >> > >> >> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 10:21:46 -0000, Max Demian    
   max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:   
   >> >> > >> >> >>   
   >> >> > >> >> >> > On 30/12/2018 03:18, Bill Wright wrote:   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >> On 29/12/2018 17:35, William Gothberg wrote:   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 17:15:05 -0000, Bill Wright   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >>>  wrote:   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >>>   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> On 29/12/2018 16:27, William Gothberg wrote:   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >>>>   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> It can take 5 minutes to warm something from frozen to   
   eating   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> temperature.  I see no reason that couldn't be made   
   into 2 minutes.   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >>>>   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> Conduction   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >>>   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >>> Which would be way faster if the water content the   
   microwaves were   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >>> hitting was heated hotter.   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >>   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >> But the difference in temp between the outside and the   
   inside of the   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >> food would be greater and this could result in food that   
   was both over-   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >> and under-cooked. This is why microwave ovens have low   
   settings, so food   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >> can cook slowly and evenly. Anyone who uses a microwave a   
   lot will be   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >> well aware of this. For items where convection can assist   
   conduction   
   >> >> > >> >> >> >> higher power can be fine, but not for large solid lumps of   
   food.   
   >> >> > >> >> >>   
   >> >> > >> >> >> I can't say many things I cook have large solid lumps.  All   
   ready meals are pretty much fluid, so convection and conduction can take   
   place, and almost everything I cook is a dish of something which is only 2   
   inches deep.   
   >> >> > >> >> >>   
   >> >> > >> >> >> > I don't know what the low settings are for. All the   
   instructions I've   
   >> >> > >> >> >> > seen - e.g. on ready meals - say "full power". There is the   
   defrost   
   >> >> > >> >> >> > setting, but microwaves aren't very good at defrosting as   
   they don't   
   >> >> > >> >> >> > heat frozen water very well.   
   >> >> > >> >> >>   
   >> >> > >> >> >> Mine thaws a frozen (already cooked) pizza extremely well, on   
   full power.  It turns a -20C pizza into a +40C pizza in 4 minutes.   
   >> >> > >> >> >   
   >> >> > >> >> > Only a moron would cook a pizza in a microwave.   
   >> >> > >> >>   
   >> >> > >> >> No, anyone who wants it ready more quickly.  I buy the frozen   
   pizza in the supermarket, place it in the microwave, then I can eat it in 4   
   minutes.   
   >> >> > >> >>   
   >> >> > >> >> Why would you think pizzas shouldn't go in microwaves?!  Every   
   foodstuff can be cooked in a microwave.   
   >> >> > >> >   
   >> >> > >> > Because some of us are more interested in good results than in   
   speed.   
   >> >> > >> >   
   >> >> > >> > When I want pizza, I make the crust from scratch, wait for it to   
   rise,   
   >> >> > >> > shape it, top it, and bake it at 550 F.   
   >> >> > >>   
   >> >> > >> And your stomach is happy to wait?!   
   >> >> > >   
   >> >> > > Sure.  I plan ahead, and the pizza is ready when my stomach is.   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> > When I see food, I get hungry, it's a natural instinct.  Therefore I   
   cannot prepare food without consuming half the ingredients during the cooking   
   operation.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Like a child.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> > > If I want something fast, I have scrambled eggs.   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> > I always want something fast, therefore I cook EVERYTHING in a   
   microwave.  Even things that say you have to use an oven, I ignore it and use   
   the microwave, funnily enough it tastes nice and is edible.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> You have an undeveloped palate.  Ready meals taste "nice" because they   
   >> >> hit your evolutionary preferences for fat, salt, and sugar.  The   
   >> >> manufacturers do that deliberately so you won't notice how truly   
   >> >> wretched the underlying taste is.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Cindy Hamilton   
   >> >   
   >> > It's still mostly wretched compared to real cooked food that you prepare   
   >> > yourself.  The idea that a pizza cooked in a microwave is representative   
   >> > of good pizza is absurd.  The vast majority of the commercial frozen   
   pizzas   
   >> > that I've seen do not say that they should be or can be cooked in a   
   >> > microwave.   
   >>   
   >> They're ALREADY cooked, you're reheating them.  A microwave is perfectly   
   capable of this.  Even if you were actually cooking them, it's easy enough to   
   change the power level accordingly.  But there's no reason to reduce the   
   maximum power available.     
   When you just want to heat something rapidly, you need as much power as   
   possible.   
   >>   
   >> > There are a few small pizzas designed for a microwave and they   
   >> > have to play tricks, like have a piece of metalized cardboard to try to   
   >> > crisp up the bottom.  It doesn't work well and the one I tried was also   
   >> > among the crappiest pizzas for other reasons too.   
   >>   
   >> Again, it's ALREADY cooked and crisped.  If you were actually cooking it,   
   you can turn the grill or oven function on on your microwave simultaneously.   
   >   
   > IDK what kind of crap you have over there, but here, in the USA, frozen   
   > pizza is not cooked.  The crust is dough that needs to be baked,   
   > the cheese needs to be melted, etc.  I suspect, as usual from past   
   > experience, you're full of shit and pizza in the UK is similar.  And   
   > the vast majority of pizza COOKING instructions say to put it in a   
   > regular oven, not a microwave.  For obvious reasons.   
      
   No, it's pre-cooked, why would I buy a pre-made pizza and still have to do the   
   work myself?  If I wanted a home made pizza, I'd start from scratch.   
   https://groceries.asda.com/product/thin-crust-pizza/asda-mediter   
   anean-vegetable-extra-thin-crispy-pizza/910000479897   
      
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