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   "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
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   > On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:43:20 -0000, trader_4    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 10:58:16 AM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey   
   >> wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 13:26:42 -0000, trader_4    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 6:26:03 AM UTC-5,   
   >>> > angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:   
   >>> >> On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 3:58:10 PM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey   
   >>> >> wrote:   
   >>> >> > On Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:00:40 -0000,    
   >>> >> > wrote:   
   >>> >> >   
   >>> >> > > On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 5:39:43 PM UTC-5, Commander   
   >>> >> > > Kinsey wrote:   
   >>> >> > >> On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 11:34:40 -0000,   
   >>> >> > >>  wrote:   
   >>> >> > >>   
   >>> >> > >> > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 3:24:35 PM UTC-5, William   
   >>> >> > >> > Gothberg wrote:   
   >>> >> > >> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 20:20:18 -0000, trader_4   
   >>> >> > >> >>  wrote:   
   >>> >> > >> >>   
   >>> >> > >> >> > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 12:16:27 PM UTC-5, William   
   >>> >> > >> >> > Gothberg wrote:   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 10:21:46 -0000, Max Demian   
   >>> >> > >> >> >>  wrote:   
   >>> >> > >> >> >>   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> > On 30/12/2018 03:18, Bill Wright wrote:   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >> On 29/12/2018 17:35, William Gothberg wrote:   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 17:15:05 -0000, Bill Wright   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >>>  wrote:   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >>>   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> On 29/12/2018 16:27, William Gothberg wrote:   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> It can take 5 minutes to warm something from frozen   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> to eating   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> temperature.  I see no reason that couldn't be made   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> into 2 minutes.   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> Conduction   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >>>   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> Which would be way faster if the water content the   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> microwaves were   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> hitting was heated hotter.   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >>   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >> But the difference in temp between the outside and the   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >> inside of the   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >> food would be greater and this could result in food   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >> that was both over-   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >> and under-cooked. This is why microwave ovens have low   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >> settings, so food   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >> can cook slowly and evenly. Anyone who uses a microwave   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >> a lot will be   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >> well aware of this. For items where convection can   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >> assist conduction   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >> higher power can be fine, but not for large solid lumps   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> >> of food.   
   >>> >> > >> >> >>   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> I can't say many things I cook have large solid lumps.   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> All ready meals are pretty much fluid, so convection and   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> conduction can take place, and almost everything I cook is   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> a dish of something which is only 2 inches deep.   
   >>> >> > >> >> >>   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> > I don't know what the low settings are for. All the   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> > instructions I've   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> > seen - e.g. on ready meals - say "full power". There is   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> > the defrost   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> > setting, but microwaves aren't very good at defrosting   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> > as they don't   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> > heat frozen water very well.   
   >>> >> > >> >> >>   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> Mine thaws a frozen (already cooked) pizza extremely well,   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> on full power.  It turns a -20C pizza into a +40C pizza in   
   >>> >> > >> >> >> 4 minutes.   
   >>> >> > >> >> >   
   >>> >> > >> >> > Only a moron would cook a pizza in a microwave.   
   >>> >> > >> >>   
   >>> >> > >> >> No, anyone who wants it ready more quickly.  I buy the frozen   
   >>> >> > >> >> pizza in the supermarket, place it in the microwave, then I   
   >>> >> > >> >> can eat it in 4 minutes.   
   >>> >> > >> >>   
   >>> >> > >> >> Why would you think pizzas shouldn't go in microwaves?!   
   >>> >> > >> >> Every foodstuff can be cooked in a microwave.   
   >>> >> > >> >   
   >>> >> > >> > Because some of us are more interested in good results than in   
   >>> >> > >> > speed.   
   >>> >> > >> >   
   >>> >> > >> > When I want pizza, I make the crust from scratch, wait for it   
   >>> >> > >> > to rise,   
   >>> >> > >> > shape it, top it, and bake it at 550 F.   
   >>> >> > >>   
   >>> >> > >> And your stomach is happy to wait?!   
   >>> >> > >   
   >>> >> > > Sure.  I plan ahead, and the pizza is ready when my stomach is.   
   >>> >> >   
   >>> >> > When I see food, I get hungry, it's a natural instinct.  Therefore   
   >>> >> > I cannot prepare food without consuming half the ingredients during   
   >>> >> > the cooking operation.   
   >>> >>   
   >>> >> Like a child.   
   >>> >>   
   >>> >> > > If I want something fast, I have scrambled eggs.   
   >>> >> >   
   >>> >> > I always want something fast, therefore I cook EVERYTHING in a   
   >>> >> > microwave.  Even things that say you have to use an oven, I ignore   
   >>> >> > it and use the microwave, funnily enough it tastes nice and is   
   >>> >> > edible.   
   >>> >>   
   >>> >> You have an undeveloped palate.  Ready meals taste "nice" because   
   >>> >> they   
   >>> >> hit your evolutionary preferences for fat, salt, and sugar.  The   
   >>> >> manufacturers do that deliberately so you won't notice how truly   
   >>> >> wretched the underlying taste is.   
   >>> >>   
   >>> >> Cindy Hamilton   
   >>> >   
   >>> > It's still mostly wretched compared to real cooked food that you   
   >>> > prepare   
   >>> > yourself.  The idea that a pizza cooked in a microwave is   
   >>> > representative   
   >>> > of good pizza is absurd.  The vast majority of the commercial frozen   
   >>> > pizzas   
   >>> > that I've seen do not say that they should be or can be cooked in a   
   >>> > microwave.   
   >>>   
   >>> They're ALREADY cooked, you're reheating them.  A microwave is perfectly   
   >>> capable of this.  Even if you were actually cooking them, it's easy   
   >>> enough to change the power level accordingly.  But there's no reason to   
   >>> reduce the maximum power available.  When you just want to heat   
   >>> something rapidly, you need as much power as possible.   
   >>>   
   >>> > There are a few small pizzas designed for a microwave and they   
   >>> > have to play tricks, like have a piece of metalized cardboard to try   
   >>> > to   
   >>> > crisp up the bottom.  It doesn't work well and the one I tried was   
   >>> > also   
   >>> > among the crappiest pizzas for other reasons too.   
   >>>   
   >>> Again, it's ALREADY cooked and crisped.  If you were actually cooking   
   >>> it, you can turn the grill or oven function on on your microwave   
   >>> simultaneously.   
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