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   From: fredxx@nospam.com   
      
   On 21/01/2019 15:11:41, Commander Kinsey wrote:   
   > On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 14:56:52 -0000, Fredxx  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 02/01/2019 16:51:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:43:20 -0000, trader_4    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 10:58:16 AM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey   
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>> On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 13:26:42 -0000, trader_4    
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 6:26:03 AM UTC-5,   
   >>>>> angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:   
   >>>>> >> On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 3:58:10 PM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey   
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>> >> > On Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:00:40 -0000,   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>> >> >   
   >>>>> >> > > On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 5:39:43 PM UTC-5, Commander   
   >>>>> Kinsey wrote:   
   >>>>> >> > >> On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 11:34:40 -0000,   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>> >> > >>   
   >>>>> >> > >> > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 3:24:35 PM UTC-5, William   
   >>>>> Gothberg wrote:   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 20:20:18 -0000, trader_4   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>> >> > >> >>   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 12:16:27 PM UTC-5,   
   >>>>> William Gothberg wrote:   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 10:21:46 -0000, Max Demian   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >>   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > On 30/12/2018 03:18, Bill Wright wrote:   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> On 29/12/2018 17:35, William Gothberg wrote:   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 17:15:05 -0000, Bill Wright   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>  wrote:   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> On 29/12/2018 16:27, William Gothberg wrote:   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> It can take 5 minutes to warm something from   
   >>>>> frozen to eating   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> temperature.  I see no reason that couldn't be   
   >>>>> made into 2 minutes.   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> Conduction   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> Which would be way faster if the water content the   
   >>>>> microwaves were   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> hitting was heated hotter.   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> But the difference in temp between the outside and   
   >>>>> the inside of the   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> food would be greater and this could result in food   
   >>>>> that was both over-   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> and under-cooked. This is why microwave ovens have   
   >>>>> low settings, so food   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> can cook slowly and evenly. Anyone who uses a   
   >>>>> microwave a lot will be   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> well aware of this. For items where convection can   
   >>>>> assist conduction   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> higher power can be fine, but not for large solid   
   >>>>> lumps of food.   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >>   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> I can't say many things I cook have large solid lumps.   
   >>>>> All ready meals are pretty much fluid, so convection and conduction   
   >>>>> can take place, and almost everything I cook is a dish of something   
   >>>>> which is only 2 inches deep.   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >>   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > I don't know what the low settings are for. All the   
   >>>>> instructions I've   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > seen - e.g. on ready meals - say "full power". There   
   >>>>> is the defrost   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > setting, but microwaves aren't very good at   
   >>>>> defrosting as they don't   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > heat frozen water very well.   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >>   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >> Mine thaws a frozen (already cooked) pizza extremely   
   >>>>> well, on full power.  It turns a -20C pizza into a +40C pizza in 4   
   >>>>> minutes.   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> >   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> > Only a moron would cook a pizza in a microwave.   
   >>>>> >> > >> >>   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> No, anyone who wants it ready more quickly.  I buy the   
   >>>>> frozen pizza in the supermarket, place it in the microwave, then I   
   >>>>> can eat it in 4 minutes.   
   >>>>> >> > >> >>   
   >>>>> >> > >> >> Why would you think pizzas shouldn't go in microwaves?!   
   >>>>> Every foodstuff can be cooked in a microwave.   
   >>>>> >> > >> >   
   >>>>> >> > >> > Because some of us are more interested in good results than   
   >>>>> in speed.   
   >>>>> >> > >> >   
   >>>>> >> > >> > When I want pizza, I make the crust from scratch, wait for   
   >>>>> it to rise,   
   >>>>> >> > >> > shape it, top it, and bake it at 550 F.   
   >>>>> >> > >>   
   >>>>> >> > >> And your stomach is happy to wait?!   
   >>>>> >> > >   
   >>>>> >> > > Sure.  I plan ahead, and the pizza is ready when my stomach is.   
   >>>>> >> >   
   >>>>> >> > When I see food, I get hungry, it's a natural instinct.   
   >>>>> Therefore I cannot prepare food without consuming half the   
   >>>>> ingredients during the cooking operation.   
   >>>>> >>   
   >>>>> >> Like a child.   
   >>>>> >>   
   >>>>> >> > > If I want something fast, I have scrambled eggs.   
   >>>>> >> >   
   >>>>> >> > I always want something fast, therefore I cook EVERYTHING in a   
   >>>>> microwave.  Even things that say you have to use an oven, I ignore it   
   >>>>> and use the microwave, funnily enough it tastes nice and is edible.   
   >>>>> >>   
   >>>>> >> You have an undeveloped palate.  Ready meals taste "nice" because   
   >>>>> they   
   >>>>> >> hit your evolutionary preferences for fat, salt, and sugar.  The   
   >>>>> >> manufacturers do that deliberately so you won't notice how truly   
   >>>>> >> wretched the underlying taste is.   
   >>>>> >>   
   >>>>> >> Cindy Hamilton   
   >>>>> >   
   >>>>> > It's still mostly wretched compared to real cooked food that you   
   >>>>> prepare   
   >>>>> > yourself.  The idea that a pizza cooked in a microwave is   
   >>>>> representative   
   >>>>> > of good pizza is absurd.  The vast majority of the commercial   
   >>>>> frozen pizzas   
   >>>>> > that I've seen do not say that they should be or can be cooked in a   
   >>>>> > microwave.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> They're ALREADY cooked, you're reheating them.  A microwave is   
   >>>>> perfectly capable of this.  Even if you were actually cooking them,   
   >>>>> it's easy enough to change the power level accordingly.  But there's   
   >>>>> no reason to reduce the maximum power available.  When you just want   
   >>>>> to heat something rapidly, you need as much power as possible.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> > There are a few small pizzas designed for a microwave and they   
   >>>>> > have to play tricks, like have a piece of metalized cardboard to   
   >>>>> try to   
   >>>>> > crisp up the bottom.  It doesn't work well and the one I tried was   
   >>>>> also   
   >>>>> > among the crappiest pizzas for other reasons too.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Again, it's ALREADY cooked and crisped.  If you were actually cooking   
      
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