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From: CFKinsey@military.org.jp
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 15:49:20 -0000, trader_4 wrote:
> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 10:36:50 AM UTC-5, Fredxx wrote:
>> On 21/01/2019 15:11:41, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> > On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 14:56:52 -0000, Fredxx wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 02/01/2019 16:51:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >>> On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:43:20 -0000, trader_4
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 10:58:16 AM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 13:26:42 -0000, trader_4
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 6:26:03 AM UTC-5,
>> >>>>> angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >>>>> >> On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 3:58:10 PM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> >> > On Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:00:40 -0000,
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> >> >
>> >>>>> >> > > On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 5:39:43 PM UTC-5, Commander
>> >>>>> Kinsey wrote:
>> >>>>> >> > >> On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 11:34:40 -0000,
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> >> > >>
>> >>>>> >> > >> > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 3:24:35 PM UTC-5, William
>> >>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 20:20:18 -0000, trader_4
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> >> > >> >>
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 12:16:27 PM UTC-5,
>> >>>>> William Gothberg wrote:
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 10:21:46 -0000, Max Demian
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >>
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > On 30/12/2018 03:18, Bill Wright wrote:
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> On 29/12/2018 17:35, William Gothberg wrote:
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 17:15:05 -0000, Bill Wright
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> On 29/12/2018 16:27, William Gothberg wrote:
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> It can take 5 minutes to warm something from
>> >>>>> frozen to eating
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> temperature. I see no reason that couldn't be
>> >>>>> made into 2 minutes.
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> Conduction
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> Which would be way faster if the water content the
>> >>>>> microwaves were
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> hitting was heated hotter.
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> But the difference in temp between the outside and
>> >>>>> the inside of the
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> food would be greater and this could result in food
>> >>>>> that was both over-
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> and under-cooked. This is why microwave ovens have
>> >>>>> low settings, so food
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> can cook slowly and evenly. Anyone who uses a
>> >>>>> microwave a lot will be
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> well aware of this. For items where convection can
>> >>>>> assist conduction
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> higher power can be fine, but not for large solid
>> >>>>> lumps of food.
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >>
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> I can't say many things I cook have large solid lumps.
>> >>>>> All ready meals are pretty much fluid, so convection and conduction
>> >>>>> can take place, and almost everything I cook is a dish of something
>> >>>>> which is only 2 inches deep.
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >>
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > I don't know what the low settings are for. All the
>> >>>>> instructions I've
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > seen - e.g. on ready meals - say "full power". There
>> >>>>> is the defrost
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > setting, but microwaves aren't very good at
>> >>>>> defrosting as they don't
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > heat frozen water very well.
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >>
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> Mine thaws a frozen (already cooked) pizza extremely
>> >>>>> well, on full power. It turns a -20C pizza into a +40C pizza in 4
>> >>>>> minutes.
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> > Only a moron would cook a pizza in a microwave.
>> >>>>> >> > >> >>
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> No, anyone who wants it ready more quickly. I buy the
>> >>>>> frozen pizza in the supermarket, place it in the microwave, then I
>> >>>>> can eat it in 4 minutes.
>> >>>>> >> > >> >>
>> >>>>> >> > >> >> Why would you think pizzas shouldn't go in microwaves?!
>> >>>>> Every foodstuff can be cooked in a microwave.
>> >>>>> >> > >> >
>> >>>>> >> > >> > Because some of us are more interested in good results than
>> >>>>> in speed.
>> >>>>> >> > >> >
>> >>>>> >> > >> > When I want pizza, I make the crust from scratch, wait for
>> >>>>> it to rise,
>> >>>>> >> > >> > shape it, top it, and bake it at 550 F.
>> >>>>> >> > >>
>> >>>>> >> > >> And your stomach is happy to wait?!
>> >>>>> >> > >
>> >>>>> >> > > Sure. I plan ahead, and the pizza is ready when my stomach is.
>> >>>>> >> >
>> >>>>> >> > When I see food, I get hungry, it's a natural instinct.
>> >>>>> Therefore I cannot prepare food without consuming half the
>> >>>>> ingredients during the cooking operation.
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> Like a child.
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> > > If I want something fast, I have scrambled eggs.
>> >>>>> >> >
>> >>>>> >> > I always want something fast, therefore I cook EVERYTHING in a
>> >>>>> microwave. Even things that say you have to use an oven, I ignore it
>> >>>>> and use the microwave, funnily enough it tastes nice and is edible.
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> You have an undeveloped palate. Ready meals taste "nice" because
>> >>>>> they
>> >>>>> >> hit your evolutionary preferences for fat, salt, and sugar. The
>> >>>>> >> manufacturers do that deliberately so you won't notice how truly
>> >>>>> >> wretched the underlying taste is.
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> Cindy Hamilton
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > It's still mostly wretched compared to real cooked food that you
>> >>>>> prepare
>> >>>>> > yourself. The idea that a pizza cooked in a microwave is
>> >>>>> representative
>> >>>>> > of good pizza is absurd. The vast majority of the commercial
>> >>>>> frozen pizzas
>> >>>>> > that I've seen do not say that they should be or can be cooked in a
>> >>>>> > microwave.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> They're ALREADY cooked, you're reheating them. A microwave is
>> >>>>> perfectly capable of this. Even if you were actually cooking them,
>> >>>>> it's easy enough to change the power level accordingly. But there's
>> >>>>> no reason to reduce the maximum power available. When you just want
>> >>>>> to heat something rapidly, you need as much power as possible.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> > There are a few small pizzas designed for a microwave and they
>> >>>>> > have to play tricks, like have a piece of metalized cardboard to
>> >>>>> try to
>> >>>>> > crisp up the bottom. It doesn't work well and the one I tried was
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