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From: fredxx@nospam.com
On 21/01/2019 16:04:44, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 15:36:46 -0000, Fredxx wrote:
>
>> On 21/01/2019 15:11:41, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 14:56:52 -0000, Fredxx wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 02/01/2019 16:51:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:43:20 -0000, trader_4
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 10:58:16 AM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 13:26:42 -0000, trader_4
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 6:26:03 AM UTC-5,
>>>>>>> angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>> >> On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 3:58:10 PM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> > On Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:00:40 -0000,
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > > On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 5:39:43 PM UTC-5, Commander
>>>>>>> Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>> >> > >> On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 11:34:40 -0000,
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> > >>
>>>>>>> >> > >> > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 3:24:35 PM UTC-5, William
>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 20:20:18 -0000, trader_4
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> > >> >>
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 12:16:27 PM UTC-5,
>>>>>>> William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 10:21:46 -0000, Max Demian
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> > On 30/12/2018 03:18, Bill Wright wrote:
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> On 29/12/2018 17:35, William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 17:15:05 -0000, Bill Wright
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> On 29/12/2018 16:27, William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> It can take 5 minutes to warm something from
>>>>>>> frozen to eating
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> temperature. I see no reason that couldn't be
>>>>>>> made into 2 minutes.
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> Conduction
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> Which would be way faster if the water content the
>>>>>>> microwaves were
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> hitting was heated hotter.
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> But the difference in temp between the outside and
>>>>>>> the inside of the
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> food would be greater and this could result in food
>>>>>>> that was both over-
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> and under-cooked. This is why microwave ovens have
>>>>>>> low settings, so food
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> can cook slowly and evenly. Anyone who uses a
>>>>>>> microwave a lot will be
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> well aware of this. For items where convection can
>>>>>>> assist conduction
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> higher power can be fine, but not for large solid
>>>>>>> lumps of food.
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> I can't say many things I cook have large solid lumps.
>>>>>>> All ready meals are pretty much fluid, so convection and conduction
>>>>>>> can take place, and almost everything I cook is a dish of something
>>>>>>> which is only 2 inches deep.
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> > I don't know what the low settings are for. All the
>>>>>>> instructions I've
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> > seen - e.g. on ready meals - say "full power". There
>>>>>>> is the defrost
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> > setting, but microwaves aren't very good at
>>>>>>> defrosting as they don't
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> > heat frozen water very well.
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >> Mine thaws a frozen (already cooked) pizza extremely
>>>>>>> well, on full power. It turns a -20C pizza into a +40C pizza in 4
>>>>>>> minutes.
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> > Only a moron would cook a pizza in a microwave.
>>>>>>> >> > >> >>
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> No, anyone who wants it ready more quickly. I buy the
>>>>>>> frozen pizza in the supermarket, place it in the microwave, then I
>>>>>>> can eat it in 4 minutes.
>>>>>>> >> > >> >>
>>>>>>> >> > >> >> Why would you think pizzas shouldn't go in microwaves?!
>>>>>>> Every foodstuff can be cooked in a microwave.
>>>>>>> >> > >> >
>>>>>>> >> > >> > Because some of us are more interested in good results
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> in speed.
>>>>>>> >> > >> >
>>>>>>> >> > >> > When I want pizza, I make the crust from scratch, wait for
>>>>>>> it to rise,
>>>>>>> >> > >> > shape it, top it, and bake it at 550 F.
>>>>>>> >> > >>
>>>>>>> >> > >> And your stomach is happy to wait?!
>>>>>>> >> > >
>>>>>>> >> > > Sure. I plan ahead, and the pizza is ready when my
>>>>>>> stomach is.
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > When I see food, I get hungry, it's a natural instinct.
>>>>>>> Therefore I cannot prepare food without consuming half the
>>>>>>> ingredients during the cooking operation.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Like a child.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> > > If I want something fast, I have scrambled eggs.
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > I always want something fast, therefore I cook EVERYTHING in a
>>>>>>> microwave. Even things that say you have to use an oven, I
>>>>>>> ignore it
>>>>>>> and use the microwave, funnily enough it tastes nice and is edible.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> You have an undeveloped palate. Ready meals taste "nice" because
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> >> hit your evolutionary preferences for fat, salt, and sugar. The
>>>>>>> >> manufacturers do that deliberately so you won't notice how truly
>>>>>>> >> wretched the underlying taste is.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > It's still mostly wretched compared to real cooked food that you
>>>>>>> prepare
>>>>>>> > yourself. The idea that a pizza cooked in a microwave is
>>>>>>> representative
>>>>>>> > of good pizza is absurd. The vast majority of the commercial
>>>>>>> frozen pizzas
>>>>>>> > that I've seen do not say that they should be or can be cooked
>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>> > microwave.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They're ALREADY cooked, you're reheating them. A microwave is
>>>>>>> perfectly capable of this. Even if you were actually cooking them,
>>>>>>> it's easy enough to change the power level accordingly. But there's
>>>>>>> no reason to reduce the maximum power available. When you just want
>>>>>>> to heat something rapidly, you need as much power as possible.
>>>>>>>
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