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   Message 7,277 of 7,706   
   Rod Speed to Fredxx   
   Re: Slow microwave ovens (1/2)   
   22 Jan 19 06:05:27   
   
   XPost: alt.home.repair, uk.d-i-y, alt.sci.physics   
   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   "Fredxx"  wrote in message   
   news:q24uqi$i83$3@dont-email.me...   
   > On 21/01/2019 16:04:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 15:49:20 -0000, trader_4    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 10:36:50 AM UTC-5, Fredxx wrote:   
   >>>> On 21/01/2019 15:11:41, Commander Kinsey wrote:   
   >>>> > On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 14:56:52 -0000, Fredxx  wrote:   
   >>>> >   
   >>>> >> On 02/01/2019 16:51:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:   
   >>>> >>> On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:43:20 -0000, trader_4   
   >>>> >>>    
   >>>> >>> wrote:   
   >>>> >>>   
   >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 10:58:16 AM UTC-5, Commander   
   >>>> Kinsey   
   >>>> >>>> wrote:   
   >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 13:26:42 -0000, trader_4   
   >>>>    
   >>>> >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>> >>>>>   
   >>>> >>>>> > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 6:26:03 AM UTC-5,   
   >>>> >>>>> angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:   
   >>>> >>>>> >> On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 3:58:10 PM UTC-5, Commander   
   >>>> Kinsey   
   >>>> >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > On Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:00:40 -0000,   
   >>>> >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>> >>>>> >> >   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > > On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 5:39:43 PM UTC-5,   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > > Commander   
   >>>> >>>>> Kinsey wrote:   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 11:34:40 -0000,   
   >>>> >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >>   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 3:24:35 PM UTC-5,   
   >>>> William   
   >>>> >>>>> Gothberg wrote:   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 20:20:18 -0000, trader_4   
   >>>> >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >>   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 12:16:27 PM UTC-5,   
   >>>> >>>>> William Gothberg wrote:   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 10:21:46 -0000, Max Demian   
   >>>> >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >>   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > On 30/12/2018 03:18, Bill Wright wrote:   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> On 29/12/2018 17:35, William Gothberg wrote:   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 17:15:05 -0000, Bill Wright   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>  wrote:   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> On 29/12/2018 16:27, William Gothberg wrote:   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> It can take 5 minutes to warm something from   
   >>>> >>>>> frozen to eating   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> temperature.  I see no reason that couldn't   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> be   
   >>>> >>>>> made into 2 minutes.   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> Conduction   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> Which would be way faster if the water   
   >>>> content the   
   >>>> >>>>> microwaves were   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> hitting was heated hotter.   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> But the difference in temp between the outside   
   >>>> and   
   >>>> >>>>> the inside of the   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> food would be greater and this could result in   
   >>>> food   
   >>>> >>>>> that was both over-   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> and under-cooked. This is why microwave ovens   
   >>>> have   
   >>>> >>>>> low settings, so food   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> can cook slowly and evenly. Anyone who uses a   
   >>>> >>>>> microwave a lot will be   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> well aware of this. For items where convection   
   >>>> can   
   >>>> >>>>> assist conduction   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> higher power can be fine, but not for large   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> solid   
   >>>> >>>>> lumps of food.   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >>   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> I can't say many things I cook have large solid   
   >>>> lumps.   
   >>>> >>>>> All ready meals are pretty much fluid, so convection and   
   >>>> conduction   
   >>>> >>>>> can take place, and almost everything I cook is a dish of   
   >>>> something   
   >>>> >>>>> which is only 2 inches deep.   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >>   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > I don't know what the low settings are for. All   
   >>>> the   
   >>>> >>>>> instructions I've   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > seen - e.g. on ready meals - say "full power".   
   >>>> There   
   >>>> >>>>> is the defrost   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > setting, but microwaves aren't very good at   
   >>>> >>>>> defrosting as they don't   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > heat frozen water very well.   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >>   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> Mine thaws a frozen (already cooked) pizza   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> extremely   
   >>>> >>>>> well, on full power.  It turns a -20C pizza into a +40C pizza in   
   >>>> >>>>> 4   
   >>>> >>>>> minutes.   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> >   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> > Only a moron would cook a pizza in a microwave.   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >>   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> No, anyone who wants it ready more quickly.  I buy the   
   >>>> >>>>> frozen pizza in the supermarket, place it in the microwave, then   
   >>>> >>>>> I   
   >>>> >>>>> can eat it in 4 minutes.   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >>   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> Why would you think pizzas shouldn't go in   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >> microwaves?!   
   >>>> >>>>> Every foodstuff can be cooked in a microwave.   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> > Because some of us are more interested in good   
   >>>> results than   
   >>>> >>>>> in speed.   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> >   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> > When I want pizza, I make the crust from scratch,   
   >>>> wait for   
   >>>> >>>>> it to rise,   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> > shape it, top it, and bake it at 550 F.   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >>   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >> And your stomach is happy to wait?!   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > >   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > > Sure.  I plan ahead, and the pizza is ready when my   
   >>>> stomach is.   
   >>>> >>>>> >> >   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > When I see food, I get hungry, it's a natural instinct.   
   >>>> >>>>> Therefore I cannot prepare food without consuming half the   
   >>>> >>>>> ingredients during the cooking operation.   
   >>>> >>>>> >>   
   >>>> >>>>> >> Like a child.   
   >>>> >>>>> >>   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > > If I want something fast, I have scrambled eggs.   
   >>>> >>>>> >> >   
   >>>> >>>>> >> > I always want something fast, therefore I cook EVERYTHING   
   >>>> in a   
   >>>> >>>>> microwave.  Even things that say you have to use an oven, I   
   >>>> ignore it   
   >>>> >>>>> and use the microwave, funnily enough it tastes nice and is   
   >>>> edible.   
   >>>> >>>>> >>   
   >>>> >>>>> >> You have an undeveloped palate.  Ready meals taste "nice"   
   >>>> because   
   >>>> >>>>> they   
   >>>> >>>>> >> hit your evolutionary preferences for fat, salt, and sugar.   
   >>>> The   
   >>>> >>>>> >> manufacturers do that deliberately so you won't notice how   
   >>>> truly   
   >>>> >>>>> >> wretched the underlying taste is.   
   >>>> >>>>> >>   
   >>>> >>>>> >> Cindy Hamilton   
   >>>> >>>>> >   
   >>>> >>>>> > It's still mostly wretched compared to real cooked food that   
   >>>> >>>>> > you   
   >>>> >>>>> prepare   
      
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