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   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
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   > On Wed, 08 May 2019 22:24:15 +0100, Rod Speed    
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   >> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >> news:op.z1hmavnbwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>> On Tue, 07 May 2019 23:30:04 +0100, Rod Speed    
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   >>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>>> news:op.z1funfnkwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>> On Tue, 07 May 2019 02:49:54 +0100, Rod Speed   
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   >>>>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>> news:op.z1d7h3x1wdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>> On Mon, 06 May 2019 20:44:56 +0100, Rod Speed   
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   >>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>> news:op.z1dt8mopwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 06 May 2019 20:00:11 +0100, Rod Speed   
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   >>>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>> news:op.z1dsdawawdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 06 May 2019 00:35:54 +0100, Rod Speed   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> news:op.z1b04czrwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 05 May 2019 19:08:24 +0100, Rod Speed   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:op.z1buwkkiwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why copy a yank instead of a Brit?   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't copy anyone. I do what makes sense.   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's why I don't fart around with ies and use ys instead.   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am logical with some words.  I say and write pronounciation,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> because   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> it   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> comes from pronounce, not pronunce.   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't care less where it comes from.   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>> What matters is whether the individual reading it knows what I   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> am referring to, and they do when I spell it tire, from the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> context.   
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   >>>>>>>>>>> They also think you're a fucking idiot.   
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   >>>>>>>>>> Only a few fools like you.   
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   >>>>>>>>> No, most people laugh at those who can't spell.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Try facebook and twitter sometime.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> A quick note to somebody I can excuse.   
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   >>>>>> IMO its mad to be wasting lots of time teaching   
   >>>>>> kids how to spell correctly with a language which   
   >>>>>> has stolen so many words from all sorts of foreign   
   >>>>>> languages. What matters is whether the meaning is   
   >>>>>> clear, not if every word is spelt correctly, particularly   
   >>>>>> with the more obscure stuff like its and it's etc.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> I agree on its and it's.  In fact I often deliberately write it's if   
   >>>>> something belongs to it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Oh and spelt instead of spelled too.  Why have more than one past   
   >>>>> tense?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Because of english having so many stolen words in it.   
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   >>>> Same with fora/forums etc too.   
   >>>   
   >>> I can appreciate the weird spellings from stolen words, but there's no   
   >>> need for silly pedantic things like two past tenses.   
   >>   
   >> English chose to ditch some stupiditys like sex for most inanimate   
   >> objects but not for all, most obviously with ships.   
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   > Hardly anything has a sex in English, unless it really does have a sex,   
   > like a dog.   
      
   What I said in different words.   
      
   >> Same with tenses. Some languages which were stolen from have many more   
   >> than english or at least commonly used forms of english.   
   >>   
   >>> You have now, later, and earlier.  Three tenses and nothing more.   
   >>   
   >> The are more the same reason that eskimos have a lot more   
   >> names for different types of snow than say you english do.   
   >>   
   >> There are a lot more names for the various forms of fasteners   
   >> than most of the general public do who cant even work out the   
   >> difference between a bolt and a screw, let alone a grub screw etc.   
      
   > Describing the difference between different devices is sensible.   
   > Describing the difference between something that happened in the  past and   
   > something that happened in the past - er what?   
      
   There are different ways thing can happen in in the past.   
      
   >>>>>>> But if you type whole sentences in an email or newsgroup post, I   
   >>>>>>> expect something more adult.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> More fool you. Doesn't matter if a facebook   
   >>>>>> post is telling a chest of drawers or says draws.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Every so often you get ambiguousness.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Not often enough to matter so it makes no sense   
   >>>> to be spending countless hours making kids spell   
   >>>> stuff so there can be no ambiguity.   
   >>   
   >>> When I see someone write draws instead of drawers I just laugh.  It's   
   >>> indicative of gross stupidity.   
   >>   
   >> Nope, just someone who doesn't care about spelling.   
      
   > Usually it's someone in a council estate   
      
   That's bullshit.   
      
   > who doesn't know there's two spellings.   
      
   Oh bullshit. Its mostly those who can't be bothered   
   with the correct approach, like you with its and it's   
   and with those who don't bother to make the   
   distinction between less and fewer etc.   
      
   >>> They're two entirely different words, one is an action - making a   
   >>> picture,   
   >>> the other is a piece of furniture.  Just because they sound the same is   
   >>> no   
   >>> excuse to confuse them.   
   >>   
   >> No point in wasting lots of time teaching that sort of thing   
   >> to kids in school   
   >   
   > Just because they can't be distinguished in speach doesn't mean they   
   > shouldn't be distinguished in writing.   
      
   But it clearly works with speech so does with writing too.   
      
   >> and not bothering to teach them the stupidity of racking up whatever they   
   >> want on credit cards etc.   
      
   > Just ban credit cards.   
      
   That would be completely stupid. They do have their   
   uses most obviously when say getting decent clothes   
   that are needed for work to earn a decent income etc.   
      
   Or being able to pay for an appliance that has died   
   and is useful to replace before you can get the money   
   to replace it with something that you use for cooking   
   instead of eating more expensive fast food etc.   
      
   >>>>>> In spades when the bulk of the english speaking world   
      
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