XPost: alt.home.repair, uk.d-i-y   
   From: CFKinsey@military.org.jp   
      
   On Wed, 08 May 2019 22:24:15 +0100, Rod Speed  wrote:   
      
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   > "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   > news:op.z1hmavnbwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >> On Tue, 07 May 2019 23:30:04 +0100, Rod Speed    
   >> wrote:   
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   >>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:op.z1funfnkwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>> On Tue, 07 May 2019 02:49:54 +0100, Rod Speed    
   >>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:op.z1d7h3x1wdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>> On Mon, 06 May 2019 20:44:56 +0100, Rod Speed   
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   >>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>> news:op.z1dt8mopwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>>> On Mon, 06 May 2019 20:00:11 +0100, Rod Speed   
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   >>>>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>> news:op.z1dsdawawdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 06 May 2019 00:35:54 +0100, Rod Speed   
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   >>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>> news:op.z1b04czrwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 05 May 2019 19:08:24 +0100, Rod Speed   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:op.z1buwkkiwdg98l@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why copy a yank instead of a Brit?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't copy anyone. I do what makes sense.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> That's why I don't fart around with ies and use ys instead.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> I am logical with some words.  I say and write pronounciation,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> because   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> it   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> comes from pronounce, not pronunce.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't care less where it comes from.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> What matters is whether the individual reading it knows what I   
   >>>>>>>>>>> am referring to, and they do when I spell it tire, from the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> context.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> They also think you're a fucking idiot.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Only a few fools like you.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> No, most people laugh at those who can't spell.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Try facebook and twitter sometime.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> A quick note to somebody I can excuse.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> IMO its mad to be wasting lots of time teaching   
   >>>>> kids how to spell correctly with a language which   
   >>>>> has stolen so many words from all sorts of foreign   
   >>>>> languages. What matters is whether the meaning is   
   >>>>> clear, not if every word is spelt correctly, particularly   
   >>>>> with the more obscure stuff like its and it's etc.   
   >>>   
   >>>> I agree on its and it's.  In fact I often deliberately write it's if   
   >>>> something belongs to it.   
   >>>   
   >>>> Oh and spelt instead of spelled too.  Why have more than one past tense?   
   >>>   
   >>> Because of english having so many stolen words in it.   
   >>>   
   >>> Same with fora/forums etc too.   
   >>   
   >> I can appreciate the weird spellings from stolen words, but there's no   
   >> need for silly pedantic things like two past tenses.   
   >   
   > English chose to ditch some stupiditys like sex for most inanimate   
   > objects but not for all, most obviously with ships.   
      
   Hardly anything has a sex in English, unless it really does have a sex, like a   
   dog.   
      
   > Same with tenses.   
   > Some languages which were stolen from have many more than   
   > english or at least commonly used forms of english.   
   >   
   >> You have now, later, and earlier.  Three tenses and nothing more.   
   >   
   > The are more the same reason that eskimos have a lot more   
   > names for different types of snow than say you english do.   
   >   
   > There are a lot more names for the various forms of fasteners   
   > than most of the general public do who cant even work out the   
   > difference between a bolt and a screw, let alone a grub screw etc.   
      
   Describing the difference between different devices is sensible.  Describing   
   the difference between something that happened in the past and something that   
   happened in the past - er what?   
      
   >>>>>> But if you type whole sentences in an email or newsgroup post, I   
   >>>>>> expect something more adult.   
   >>>   
   >>>>> More fool you. Doesn't matter if a facebook   
   >>>>> post is telling a chest of drawers or says draws.   
   >>>   
   >>>> Every so often you get ambiguousness.   
   >>>   
   >>> Not often enough to matter so it makes no sense   
   >>> to be spending countless hours making kids spell   
   >>> stuff so there can be no ambiguity.   
   >   
   >> When I see someone write draws instead of drawers I just laugh.  It's   
   >> indicative of gross stupidity.   
   >   
   > Nope, just someone who doesn't care about spelling.   
      
   Usually it's someone in a council estate who doesn't know there's two   
   spellings.   
      
   >> They're two entirely different words, one is an action - making a picture,   
   >> the other is a piece of furniture.  Just because they sound the same is no   
   >> excuse to confuse them.   
   >   
   > No point in wasting lots of time teaching that sort of thing   
   > to kids in school   
      
   Just because they can't be distinguished in speach doesn't mean they shouldn't   
   be distinguished in writing.   
      
   > and not bothering to teach them the   
   > stupidity of racking up whatever they want on credit cards etc.   
      
   Just ban credit cards.   
      
   >>>>> In spades when the bulk of the english speaking world   
   >>>>> uses tires instead of tyres or color instead of colour.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> No, only the stoopid yanks.   
   >>>   
   >>> Wrong, as always.   
   >>   
   >> I've never seen anyone but the yanks write color instead of colour.   
   >   
   > Then you need to get out more, particularly   
   > with those whose first language isnt english.   
      
   I don't associate with those sort.   
      
   > And with those its irrelevant anyway, it's the same word.   
      
   Who would want to look like an American?   
      
   >>>>>> Mind you I've recently closed my Facebook account,   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> More fool you. It still be best place to find cheap   
   >>>>> or free stuff local people are getting rid of etc.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> No, I get free and cheap local big stuff on freecycle, freegle, and   
   >>>> gumtree.   
   >>>   
   >>> The facebook buy swap sell groups leave those for dead.   
   >>>   
   >>> The gumtree UI is fucked in comparison.   
   >>   
   >> No,   
   >   
   > Yep.   
   >   
   >> Facebook is designed for conversation,   
   >   
   > Wrong.   
      
   It's a fucking chat room.  Where is the checkout?  Where is the automatic link   
   to paypal?   
      
   >> Gumtree is designed for selling.   
   >   
   > But there is vastly more local stuff in the local   
   > buy swap sell groups than on gumtree.   
      
   Not here.  I've got loads of stuff off Gumtree.  Everything in my house that's   
   too big to be posted from Ebay, I've got from Gumtree.   
      
      
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